# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 178
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3548 "2023-05-29T02:35:12Z")
Slideview? How do you come up with a name like that? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3549 "2023-05-31T11:34:01Z")
11-year old kid calls 911 when his mother tells him to. His step father had come in and was becoming irate. The kid comes out, hands in the air, as per the police instructions, and gets shot in the chest. > **[11-year-old boy shot in the chest by Mississippi police after calling 911 for...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/30/us/mississippi-11-year-old-shot-aderrien-murry-interview/index.html)** > > The 11-year-old boy who was shot in the chest by a Mississippi police officer after he called 911 for help says he began praying and singing during what he thought would be his last moments alive, while his mother pushed down on his wound to stop the... It’s not all that controversial to me, though – that cop should lose his job and be charged with reckless endangerment at least, maybe attempted manslaughter, if that’s a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3550 "2023-05-31T11:41:55Z")
Again I have to ask, what happens to the average citizen who happens to ‘accidentally’ shoot someone? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3551 "2023-05-31T11:46:24Z")
Like really accidentally (drops a gun and it goes off, or out hunting and you’re the VP and shoot someone in the face)? Probably depends on their lawyer – from nothing to some jail time. However, if by accidentally you mean that the average citizen sees a person, points a gun at them, and fires, I imagine they’re in for a world of hurt. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3552 "2023-05-31T13:46:49Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I imagine they’re in for a world of hurt. “He was Black and threatening, so I stood my ground.” No charges, handshakes all around. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3553 "2023-05-31T13:58:33Z")
FWIW, the cop was also Black. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3554 "2023-05-31T15:02:50Z")
A huge comfort to Aderrien, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3555 "2023-05-31T23:12:02Z")
The cop was blue. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3556 "2023-06-01T00:38:14Z")
Probably easier to get the cop fired and indicted, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3557 "2023-06-01T02:57:37Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > FWIW, the cop was also Black. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > The cop was blue. This somehow seems appropriate. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LDPUfbXRLM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LDPUfbXRLM) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3558 "2023-06-02T04:01:49Z")
I hate it when that happens. > **[Squad crashes into Shorewood home after pursuit](https://www.fox6now.com/news/shorewood-pursuit-squad-crash-home)** > > As the pursuit was terminated, the sheriff's office said two of its vehicles collided – one of which crashed into a home near Lake and Jarvis. That reminds me, did I ever show y’all this? [![](https://i.imgur.com/dSDs2N0.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/dSDs2N0.jpg) This is from 2009, when our sheriff’s deputies had those stupid looking Impalas (but at least they were easy to spot at night). Just to the left of this is a _footpath_ that cuts across the corner of a field. For whatever reason, the sheriffs always seem to have some unknown need to drive on it. This doofus decided he was going to take a shortcut to the _footpath_ and didn’t realize there’s a little drop off right there. I saw him getting pulled out by a tow truck a little while later. (PS there’s no reason to drive on the foot path. It’s like a quarter mile long, literally just cuts across the corner of a field. You can see just about from one end to the other.) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3559 "2023-06-09T18:06:49Z")
> **[Couple nearly killed while helping sheriff ends 12-year legal battle: Hear...](https://www.fox6now.com/news/jim-norma-gund-settlement-trinity-county-sheriffs-office-kettenpom-murders)** > > Jim and Norma Gund were brutally attacked when a deputy asked them to check on their neighbor. Twelve years later, they're finally able to speak about their harrowing journey. Cop call civilian and ask them to check on a nearby neighbor that made a 911 call. Civilian and spouse check on said neighbor and end up stabbed, slashed, tased but somehow not murdered. Cops call bullshit and release a statement saying, in part, “Nor would the Trinity County Sheriff’s Office ever send a citizen to perform a deputy’s job,” Their attorney found that this isn’t the first time the same scenario has played out. > in 1997, an “armed and belligerent” mentally ill man named Haskell Hall barricaded himself in his trailer. The sheriff’s office responded by asking Hall’s neighbor, Carole Laag, to enter the trailer and negotiate with him. > Hall stabbed Laag to death before he was shot and killed by deputies with the Trinity County Sheriff’s Office > In 2008, Deena McGaughey called the sheriff’s office about someone shooting toward her home, Mainzer said. When the responding deputy arrived, he reportedly had a neighbor dress in camouflage clothing and run across McGaughey’s property to distract the shooter so the deputy could find him. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3560 "2023-06-09T22:08:36Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > he reportedly had a neighbor dress in camouflage clothing and run across McGaughey’s property to distract the shooter so the deputy could find him. “Zig-zag! Zig-zag!” ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3561 "2023-06-09T23:24:39Z")
Serpentine, Shelly! Serpentine! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3562 "2023-06-12T13:14:26Z")
> **[Mississippi civil rights lawyer arrested filming traffic stop, attorney says](https://news.yahoo.com/mississippi-civil-rights-lawyer-arrested-212807021.html)** > > A Mississippi civil rights lawyer was arrested Saturday after filming a traffic stop conducted by officers from a police department she is suing in federal court, her attorney says. Jill Collen Jefferson is the president of JULIAN, the civil rights... How many times do cops need to be informed that being filmed by an uninvolved party from a distance is a constitutionally protected activity? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3563 "2023-06-12T15:35:24Z")
Until the cops personally have to pay out, an unlimited number of times. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3564 "2023-06-12T16:56:02Z")
You’d think that at some point the departments and/or the municipal governments would get tired of paying out and would tell the cops in no uncertain terms to stop doing that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3565 "2023-06-12T17:16:57Z")
The police aren’t paying out-The “Law and Order” , “Blue Lives Matter”, “Not In My White Back Yard” public are. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3566 "2023-06-12T17:52:03Z")
Hate to break it to you, but the “Black Lives Matter”, “Defund the Police”, and “I Can’t Breathe” public are also paying out. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3567 "2023-06-12T17:53:21Z")
Is true…but the others _want_ to do it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=177) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=179)