# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 196
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3908 "2024-01-16T03:48:59Z")
> “It is not a secret burial ground,” she said. "In those graves are the bodies of those who went unclaimed by family when they died. These persons are either homeless people, **inmates from local jails who died but relatives never claimed their bodies,** I will now claim that more than 80 per cent will …not white. I will also claim that the process for notifying family members was less than diligent. > “The accident was investigated and it was determined that it was in fact an accident and that there was no malicious intent,” Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba [said last October]. Andf you will now be billed for repairs to the patrol car. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3909 "2024-01-19T17:12:31Z")
> **[Ouray Plaindealer newspapers stolen on day it publishes story with...](https://www.denverpost.com/2024/01/18/ouray-plaindealer-stolen-newspapers-rape-allegations-police-chief-house/)** > > Hours after the Ouray County Plaindealer published a story detailing the alleged violent sexual assault of a teenage girl at the Ouray police chief’s house, someone stole hundreds of copies out of … > Hours after the Ouray County Plaindealer published a story detailing the alleged violent sexual assault of a teenage girl at the Ouray police chief’s house, someone stole hundreds of copies out of nearly every newspaper rack across the county, publishers say. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3910 "2024-01-19T17:19:50Z")
Huh, there’s another newspaper with that name? And that’s not only evil, it’s stupid. Did they also have a plan for dealing with the paper’s website? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3911 "2024-01-19T17:48:52Z")
Maybe they went to the publisher home and confiscated their computer like the crooked cops in Kansas. That’ll stop them. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3912 "2024-01-19T18:45:21Z")
It’s evil, stupid and an interaction between law-enforcement and civilians - I could have posted this anywhere! ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3913 "2024-01-29T18:07:22Z")
This one is a bit complicated, but terrifying. -The LAPD allegedly received a swatting 911 call for a BLM activist. -She claims the officers used the incident to harass her for her BLM activities, and sues the department. -LAPD makes up an apparently bogus claim to get a search warrant for her lawyer’s home, and then ransack it, taking pictures of his case file on the case against the department. -When a judge orders the LAPD to produce the warrant they allegedly have to search the lawyer’s house, they can’t or won’t produce it. Judge orders the photographs and files they took from his house destroyed. LAPD has failed to acknowledged that it complied with the order. While this isn’t a “cop bashes man head in” incident, it’s really shows the length a department will go through to try to avoid any accountability. > **[LAPD Raided Home Of Black Lives Matter Attorney And Took Unlawful Photos,...](https://www.essence.com/news/lapd-home-raid-black-lives-matter-attorney/)** > > Attorney Dermot Givens said that about a dozen police officers came to his house with a search warrant and took photos of documents in a lawsuit filed on behalf of a Black Lives Matter LA co-founder. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3914 "2024-01-30T07:26:13Z")
Is “ransack” literally a synonym for “search” as far as the police are concerned? ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3915 "2024-01-30T19:11:12Z")
Not to get too into the weeds, but the police were allegedly at the home on a search warrant to look for a person. How that justifies opening a safe or filing cabinets is hard for me to imagine. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3916 "2024-01-30T19:14:20Z")
Could have been hiding in that case file. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3917 "2024-01-30T19:46:55Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > Not to get too into the weeds, but the police were allegedly at the home on a search warrant to look for a person. How that justifies opening a safe or filing cabinets is hard for me to imagine. No, I think I get it. Assuming you have an actual warrant (which in this case they could not produce for the judge to look at) to search for a person in a location, and it becomes obvious that the person is not currently there but possibly may have been, you could suggest that there might be a receipt for a bus ticket or hotel room which would give detectives a trail.        Naturally, if the filing cabinet is not locked, apparently it must be opened with a crowbar, cutting torch and/or sledgehammer. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3918 "2024-01-30T19:48:52Z")
I started American Nightmare a few days ago. I’ve watched the first two episodes already and will probably watch the last one in the next day or two. That entire documentary (so far) belongs in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3919 "2024-02-03T22:36:09Z")
> **[A Vermont mom called police to talk to her son about stealing. He ended up...](https://apnews.com/article/black-teen-lawsuit-excessive-force-vermont-disabilities-7b638ed26c299c7f07033968274e8f37)** > > A Vermont mother has filed a lawsuit alleging that police used excessive force and discriminated against her unarmed Black son with behavioral and intellectual disabilities. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3920 "2024-02-04T03:19:13Z")
When are people going to learn that calling the police for help with someone who isn’t white…things will not go well. Last week someone called the police to make a wellness check on his neighbor who hadn’t been seen for a week. The neighbor was just fine until the Phoenix police showed up and killed him for the sin of walking away. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3921 "2024-02-04T03:43:37Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > No, I think I get it. Assuming you have an actual warrant (which in this case they could not produce for the judge to look at) to search for a person in a location, and it becomes obvious that the person is not currently there but possibly may have been, you could suggest that there might be a receipt for a bus ticket or hotel room which would give detectives a trail. Under the actual, you know, law, if the police are going to search for things like receipts, those need to be listed on the warrant. And they usually are. But if the warrant just says they’re looking for a person, then that’s all they’re allowed to search for, and can’t look anywhere that a person couldn’t be. But why would the police be concerned about that? It’s only the law, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3922 "2024-02-05T22:46:25Z")
> **[MPD officer charged with child abuse in court; has lengthy record](https://www.fox6now.com/news/mpd-officer-charge-child-abuse-court-lengthy-record)** > > Williams has been investigated for more than 30 misconduct allegations in nearly 20 incidents. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3923 "2024-02-06T01:21:06Z")
> **[Family of Black girls handcuffed by Colorado police, held at gunpoint reach...](https://apnews.com/article/handcuffed-black-girls-colorado-settlement-a7a695839b8841e56b7db0d103cc5ed1)** > > A Black woman and a group of four young girls who were wrongfully forced out of their car, held at gunpoint and handcuffed by police in suburban Denver in 2020 have reached a $1.9 million legal settlement. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3924 "2024-02-06T01:22:24Z")
He seems nice. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3925 "2024-02-06T01:28:34Z")
Regarding the missing warrant - If it ever existed, a copy of the warrant and the original affidavit in support of it, should be on file with the Court. At least, that’s we did it in NJ. If they made the whole thing up, someone should be going to jail. That would be corruption on a massive scale. Also, you can only look for the items named in the warrant where they could physically fit. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3926 "2024-02-06T04:38:41Z")
> [@MikeF](#): > > Also, you can only look for the items named in the warrant where they could physically fit. Yeah, but you never know, that sideboard could be concealing the entrance to a secret passageway.        _I said, put … the candle … back_ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3927 "2024-02-06T21:14:06Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > [Family of Black girls handcuffed by Colorado police, held at gunpoint reach $1.9 million settlement | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/handcuffed-black-girls-colorado-settlement-a7a695839b8841e56b7db0d103cc5ed1) I wish they would correct report as: A 1.9 million legal settlement **paid for by the taxpayers of the Denver suburb of Aurora** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=195) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=197)