# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3948 "2024-02-16T12:00:53Z")

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There are _many_ YT videos of First Amendment Auditors being detained, harassed, and (sometimes) arrested for the mere act of filming in public.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3949 "2024-02-16T14:40:12Z")

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> [@TokyoBayer](#):
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> GA police officer made numerious DUI arrests despite evidence they were not drunk.

The driver was probably hopped up on goofballs.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3950 "2024-02-16T15:43:00Z")

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_Your Honor, we have evidence that the defendant was substituting someone else’s breath for his_.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3951 "2024-02-16T16:01:02Z")

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He was drunk on power, because he did not respect the police officer’s authority!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
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Clearly, it would protect people from choking on someone else’s vomit.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3953 "2024-02-16T20:34:35Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> The driver was probably hopped up on goofballs.

Then he should have been charged with driving while hopped up on goofballs, not drunk driving.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3954 "2024-02-16T20:47:19Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Then he should have been charged with driving while hopped up on goofballs, not drunk driving.

Goofballs are notoriously difficult to prove. Better to file a false charge. It’s safer.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3955 "2024-02-16T20:52:47Z")

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“Well, we think you committed burglary but that’s hard to prove so we’ll charge you with armed robbery instead.” That’s not how it works.

In any event, what in the report leads you to believe he was ‘hopped up on goof balls?’

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3956 "2024-02-16T21:41:48Z")

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I’m being silly. It’s a Chief Wiggums reference.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3957 "2024-02-16T22:18:55Z")

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Which he stole from Joe Friday.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3958 "2024-02-16T22:20:20Z")

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_Thank you_. I was wondering why I heard that in Dan Aykroyd’s voice.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
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Yeah, but Joe Friday saw someone OD on LSD with his own eyes.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3960 "2024-02-16T22:24:41Z")

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Harry Morgan was a wild man!

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
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It could be a case of the Asshole Tax being levied. Show the slightest “contempt of cop”/“I pay your salary”/or even “you don’t have reasonable, articulable suspicion that I’ve committed a crime or am about to commit one,” and that minor infraction gets a complete citation. Or lacking even a minor infraction, you, Mr. Constitution Expert, will learn that in this state you’re required to keep a trash bag in your car, or can’t have an air freshener on your rear view. In extreme cases, the cop is willing to fill out all the DUI arrest paperwork that he knows the judge will dismiss, just so you spend the night in jail. And in at-will employment states, missing work due to arrest results in termination, because employers love that “I’ll show you who’s boss here” power too.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3962 "2024-02-18T12:19:33Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> It could be a case of the Asshole Tax being levied.

In this case, it looks like the officer was out of control. From the article I quote above:

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> In 2023, Wood made 69 DUI arrests. That’s twice as many (31) as the rest of the Commerce Police Department combined.

So it looks like he would just go hunting for DUIs and haul in everyone, drunk or sober.

One attorney on YouTube pointed out how this is a good reason for not taking field sobriety tests because of how subjective they are.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3963 "2024-02-18T20:16:05Z")

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> **[Bodies of missing Tennessee deputy and woman who had been detained recovered,...](https://abc7.com/tennessee-deputy-missing-found-dead-robert-leonard-first-arrest/14429043/)**
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> The body of a Tennessee deputy was found Thursday after he went missing following his first-ever arrest. His patrol vehicle and the body of the woman he arrested were recovered from a river, authorities said.

Officer and his prisoner die when he drives into the water, apparently due to texting

> One of the deputy’s last communications was a text to his wife that said, “Arrest,” Johnson said.
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> “His wife texted back and said, ‘That’s good’ or ‘That’s great,’” Garrett said at a press briefing earlier on Thursday. “We know that his phone did not evidently receive that text.”

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3964 "2024-02-22T03:57:03Z")

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> **[Seattle police officer who struck and killed graduate student from India...](https://apnews.com/article/india-seattle-police-pedestrian-jaahnavi-kandula-bad649068634bea0dcb0515344405520)**
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> Prosecutors in Washington state said Wednesday they will not file felony charges against a Seattle police officer who struck and killed a graduate student from India while responding to an overdose call.

Well, he was only going 74 mph in a 25 mph zone.

Actually it surprised me that a police officer would care that much about an overdose call.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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> [@PastTense](#):
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> it surprised me that a police officer would care that much about an overdose call.

_I get to drive fast and inconvenience people, YAAAY!_

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3966 "2024-02-28T20:19:03Z")

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Two cops on horses are approched by a dog. One of them proceeds to beat the dog with his baton. According to TMZ this happened about a year ago and just popped up online recently, so I have no idea if the cops are still cops or if anything ever became of it.  
What really bugged me is when the owner came running up to grab it and the “the officer on the ground gets one last good swing on the dog”. That one was particularly awful.

Fucking monsters.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BoXXMoN3sDU/maxresdefault.jpg "Scenes like the dog vs. LAPD horse incident on Melrose") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXXMoN3sDU&t=1s)

> **[LAPD Officer Swings Baton at Unleashed Dog Over Police Horse Attack](https://www.tmz.com/2024/02/28/lapd-officer-swing-baton-unleashed-dog-police-horse-attack/)**
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> LAPD officers had an unexpected face-off with an unleashed dog that attacked one of their horses -- which ended with one of the officers beating the pooch ... and it's sparked a fierce debate.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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If a dog dashed out and started biting my horse’s legs when I was riding it, I’d jump off and beat the dog too, enough to get it away from my horse for good. One attack that slashes a tendon and the horse is lamed, probably for life.

I’d also be concerned that the dog’s propensity to make a vicious attack might not be confined to horses but could extend to, say, small children running.

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