# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 208
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4148 "2024-08-28T12:13:31Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Even more troubling, Medina said he “purposefully did not record because he was invoking his 5th Amendment right not to self-incriminate.” Since “he was involved in a traffic collision,” he reasoned, he was “subject to 5th Amendment protections.” Had certainly had a 5A right not to speak. I don’t believe 5A protection extends to shutting off employer-mandated recording devices before choosing to speak. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4149 "2024-08-28T17:15:57Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Now you’re talking about destruction of evidence What if I just _forget_ to turn it off and it loops around and records over the relevant content? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4150 "2024-08-28T17:22:09Z")
Don’t most police offers have some sort of immunity from prosecution or civil lawsuit for actions committed in the performance of their duties? (I know there’s an official name for this but I can’t remember it ATM.) ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4151 "2024-08-28T17:23:22Z")
Qualified immunity, which applies to most (all?) government officials. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4152 "2024-08-28T18:39:24Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What if I just _forget_ to turn it off and it loops around and records over the relevant content? IANAL, but a quick search suggests that if you have electronic evidence that you know or should have known may be relevant to a criminal case, and you don’t take steps to preserve it (this includes allowing automatic delete/overwrite), you might be in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4153 "2024-09-09T11:11:50Z")
Police detain Tyreek Hill, wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins, on the morning of the opening game. They handcuff him and put him on the ground. [![](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/09/tyreek.jpg?quality=75&strip=all) ](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/09/tyreek.jpg?quality=75&strip=all) All over [the news](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/08/sport/tyreek-hill-detained-miami-dolphins-nfl-spt-intl/index.html). > [@](#): > > The Miami-Dade Police Department placed an officer on administrative leave Sunday after Miami Dolphins star Tyreek Hill was detained prior to the start of the season-opening game. Lots of videos of him, but I don’t have much luck linking videos. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4154 "2024-09-09T20:33:05Z")
A muscular black man? I’d say they had cause to shoot him. You can’t be too careful. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4155 "2024-09-10T19:32:38Z")
I just can’t deal with this shit, day after day after day. Cops are supposed to be the god damn good guys. This drunk cop hit a motorcycle and two young people are in critical condition. He doesn’t even get tested for alcohol when he’s so obviously drunk. Cops protecting cops even in he face of this. Sickening. > ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4156 "2024-09-10T21:45:16Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Lots of videos of him, but I don’t have much luck linking videos. The cop’s body cam footage was (partially?) released today. Um… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4157 "2024-09-10T21:53:00Z")
I have some hope that this will be the case that finally opens people’s eyes. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4158 "2024-09-19T23:26:17Z")
District Judge Kevin Mullin was [shot](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kentucky-judge-shot-killed-in-his-chambers-sheriff-arrested/ar-AA1qRAut) to death in his chambers. The suspect in this case is Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines. (Letcher County is in the Appalachian part of the state, on the Virginia border.) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4159 "2024-09-28T12:37:29Z")
Ugh, this one hits close. I’ve known this guy for probably 25 years. Not as a friend, just in a local cop/local business way. That is, for as long as he’s been a cop, he’s been stopping in at my place for lunch, responding to calls we’ve made etc. Over the years we’ve gotten to know each other just from chit chatting for 5 or 10 minutes when he’s in the store. He was one of the two cops from this story: > I walked out to the store and could see two cops with their AR-15s pointed at the front door. At this point they didn’t have any details and didn’t know that the guy had already left. I walked out with my hands up. Both these cops know me by name, I see them on a nearly daily basis, but I didn’t want to find out if they’d recognize me walking out of the scene of an armed robbery at night, hence the arms up. I made eye contact with them, waved them in and they put their guns away. Anyways, he’s the School Resource Officer/SRO. As far as I know, based on what I’ve heard over the years from my employees that have gone to that school, he’s generally well liked and I, based on my limited interactions, never got any weird vibes from him. Anyway… > **[St. Francis school resource officer recorded teen girl changing in his...](https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/south/2024/09/27/st-francis-school-resource-officer-recorded-student-changing-complaint-says/75417881007/)** > > A school resource officer for St. Francis High School is facing felony charges after allegedly recording a 17-year-old girl changing in his office. > Kamolov, who is employed as a part-time certified law enforcement officer with the St. Francis Police Department as the school resource officer for St. Francis High School, invited the girl into his private office for a surprise. He told her he’d brought shirts back from Brazil and told her to try two on to see which fit better as they were different sizes. > > Kamolov drew the blinds and exited the office. > > The student took off her zip-up hoodie to try on the shirts while still wearing a tank top. As she was trying on one of the shirts, she noticed a cellphone propped up and recording her. > > She went directly to the principal’s office and told the principal what she saw. And good job to the girl who thought quickly enough, and had the courage, to report this to the school before he had time to realize she spotted the camera. If she waited until she got home and told her parents, this may have all been much harder to prove. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4160 "2024-10-15T02:18:34Z")
I’m posting this because of the cops that wrote the tickets, not the judge. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RKILQc1NN-w/maxresdefault.jpg "JAILED for Walking While Black JUDGE dismisses case! | Part 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKILQc1NN-w) Here’s [another video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PUgbArgXJA) with a second clip of the same judge doing the same thing for someone else. I like what he’s doing, but the way he warns the defendants almost sounds like a threat. I know he’s genuinely trying to tell them that life’s not fair and they need to watch their back (for cops), but it has a ‘nice place ya here, shame if something happened to it’ ring to it. He’s essentially pushing back against Stop and Frisk (ie “walking while black”). And it’s not that he’s soft on defendants either. In fact, I’m seeing a lot of videos of him being particularly tough on defendants. \*Trevor Noah did a great video ([only a few minutes long](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzWqGAUFeI)) on that topic a while ago. We all know what it is, but this gave me a lot of insight into it’s effect on people. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4161 "2024-10-15T03:32:55Z")
The infamous _Scott v. Sandford_ i.e. “Dred Scott” Supreme Court decision at one point expounded on the liberties that free blacks would have to be accorded if they were considered citizens of the United States of America, including: > to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; Apparently we still aren’t there yet. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4162 "2024-11-13T16:09:44Z")
A while back when Kamala Harris was in town, the police were trying to clear the streets and must’ve forgotten to put up No Parking signs on one block. What did they do? They put up the signs, 10 minutes later gave everyone $150 tickets and towed their cars. The _only_ reason for voiding the tickets was because it was caught on video. > **[Milwaukee DPW voids parking citations after 'error' caught on camera](https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-parking-tickets-tow-kamala-harris-event)** > > Less than 25 minutes after the city posted temporary tow away zone signs, home surveillance cameras captured vehicles being pulled away. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4163 "2024-11-24T14:23:59Z")
> **[A man called 911 for help during a home invasion. Las Vegas police fatally...](https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-police-shooting-man-911-8c31fb3245c0fcfa80aee072b5da805a)** > > A man who was fatally shot by a Las Vegas police officer this month had called 911 for help during a home invasion. A recording of the call was released this week. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4164 "2024-11-24T15:24:26Z")
The fact that this murderous douchebag has a reflex sight on his pistol says everything we need to know about him. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4165 "2024-11-24T15:38:25Z")
Under accessory to felony laws, the original assailant can now be charged with murder. 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4166 "2024-11-24T16:59:46Z")
Yes. But for the cop who killed him “just an innocent mistake”. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4167 "2024-11-24T18:12:50Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The fact that this murderous douchebag has a reflex sight on his pistol says everything we need to know about him. What’s a reflex sight, and what does it tell us about him? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=207) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=209)