# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4188 "2024-12-28T00:23:54Z")

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It does seem to have led to a certain amount of cheerleading from the more deplorable members of my family.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4189 "2024-12-28T23:31:20Z")

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And to no one’s surprise, the officers involved in that beating have been sued in the past by other inmates they’ve beaten.

> **[Officers Present at Fatal Beating of Robert Brooks Had Past Complaints Filed...](https://www.tmz.com/2024/12/28/officers-involved-fatal-beating-robert-brooks-past-complaints-filed-court/#continued)**
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> Three officers who the New York State Attorney General's Office claims were present when Robert Brooks was beaten are named in other lawsuits alleging brutal beatings at the hands of prison guards.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4190 "2025-01-04T11:52:17Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/t9jmOWRz3CA/maxresdefault.jpg "Innocent Man Dead after Cops Raid Wrong House Looking for Judge's Missing Weedeater") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9jmOWRz3CA)

SWAT raids the wrong house and kills an innocent man, while looking for a stolen weed whacker.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4191 "2025-01-04T18:15:44Z")

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“But it was a judge’s weed whacker! Clearly an emergency!”

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4192 "2025-01-04T18:22:29Z")

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> An investigation into the deadly collision found officer Dave should not face criminal charges.

Another case of, “We investigated ourselves, and found no wrongdoing.”

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4193 "2025-01-04T21:27:21Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Another case of, “We investigated ourselves, and found no wrongdoing.”

One of the complaints listed in the Declaration of Independence was that British soldiers accused of wrongfully killing colonials were exonerated _pro forma_:

> For protecting them [troops], by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4194 "2025-01-07T00:43:31Z")

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Eight LA County sheriff’s deputies relieve of duty for covering up a fellow officer’s (also relieved of duty) beating of an innocent trans man. Not sure if they’ll end up employed elsewhere. From what I’ve read elsewhere, the LA County sheriff doesn’t have a great history.

> **[Eight California sheriff's deputies sacked for covering up a fellow officer's...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/eight-california-sheriffs-deputies-sacked-140006346.html)**
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> Emmet Brock was followed, beaten, and arrested Deputy Sheriff Joseph Benza III.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4195 "2025-01-07T04:55:31Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Another case of, “We investigated ourselves, and found no wrongdoing.”

In a better-late-than-never update to this story, the interim police chief has decided to fire him after all.

> **[Seattle police officer that hit, killed Jaahnavi Kandula in 2023 fired](https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-police-officer-that-hit-killed-jaahnavi-kandula-2023-fired/KBDUB6FULZEZ5MKBJRACO7RC2E/)**
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> His termination was effective Monday.

Stay tuned for three months from now when he gets hired as police chief of Hell’s Waiting Room, FL (birthplace of Matt Gaetz).

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4196 "2025-01-07T06:52:24Z")

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Eastern Washington should be close enough. You know; where Mark Fuhrman landed a gig on Spokane talk radio

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4197 "2025-01-07T07:19:08Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Eastern Washington should be close enough.

You know, I don’t think Republic ever did hire a replacement for Loren Culp.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4198 "2025-01-07T13:19:48Z")

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No, they surplussed the position, switching to relying solely on the Ferry County Sheriff for local LE.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4199 "2025-01-07T22:13:01Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Eastern Washington should be close enough. You know; where Mark Fuhrman landed a gig on Spokane talk radio

And maybe have a beer afterwards with domestic terrorist Matt Shea.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4200 "2025-01-08T03:32:27Z")

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Spokane is where actor Albert Salmi ended his marriage with a murder-suicide. It was late April, so he was probably at the point of _will this fucking winter never end???_

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4201 "2025-01-08T03:51:25Z")

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Well, April IS the cruelest month.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4202 "2025-01-10T23:29:38Z")

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Cop watching porn on his cell phone rear ends someone stopped for a school bus. If there was ever a time to turn off your body cam, this was it.

> **[Florida Cop Watching Porn Rear-Ends Car Stopped for School Bus](https://www.tmz.com/2025/01/10/florida-cop-watching-porn-crashes-car/#continued)**
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> A Florida cop has resigned amid an investigation into a wild incident -- rear-ending his patrol car into a civilian's vehicle while distracted by porn on his phone.

> Macomber racked up 3 policy violations – lying about the incident, using an electronic device for prohibited content, and evidence showing he wasn’t wearing a seatbelt during the crash.

I sincerely hope that, on top of the ‘policy violations’ he was issued some actual tickets as well.

Also, that newscaster, if I didn’t know better, I’d think it was Greg Proops.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4203 "2025-01-15T20:17:11Z")

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> **[Cops walk away from man dying of gunshot wound to the head to avoid working late](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/cops-ignore-victim-stl-footage-b2679587.html)**
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> Neither of St. Louis Metro cops are still with the force - but officials have not provided specifics on their departure

Two cops show up to the scene of an apparent suicide, in the middle of a public park. Since their shift ends in a half hour, instead of dealing with it, they left, joked about it, and decided to drive around for a little while and come back later.  
They didn’t even bother to try and locate the weapon. From what I can tell, it was ruled a suicide since the person has a history of suicidal ideations, but they never did find the gun. Was he shot? Did he shoot himself and collapse there? My WAG is that a random person saw him do it (or happened upon the scene) and took the gun before the cops showed up.

> **[Exclusive: Body cam shows St. Louis officers walk away from man found shot,...](https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/01/07/exclusive-body-cam-shows-st-louis-officers-walk-away-man-found-shot-still-breathing-forest-park/)**
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> St. Louis Metropolitan Police have released body camera footage showing two officers walking away from a still-breathing breathing victim of a gunshot wound because they did not want to take the call.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4204 "2025-01-15T21:38:19Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> but they never did find the gun

Oh, they found the gun all right. It will turn up at the scene of some incident in which a bad guy was shooting at the police so they had to kill him and, _see? he had a gun!_

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4205 "2025-01-21T21:38:48Z")

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FFS

> **[Florida Cop Accidentally Shoots Man With His Own Gun in Traffic Stop, on Video](https://www.tmz.com/2025/01/21/jacksonville-florida-cop-traffic-stop-accidentally-shoots-man-with-his-own-gun/)**
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> A female cop is getting canned after accidentally shooting a man with his own gun during a traffic stop in Florida -- and it's all caught on graphic body cam.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4206 "2025-01-28T22:45:18Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> There was a particularly dirty cop in the Kansas City, KS police department, Roger Golubski (rape, child rape, drug dealing, etc).

Latest update on Roger Golubski.

> **[KBI: Stolen handgun used in death of disgraced detective Roger Golubski](https://www.kctv5.com/2025/01/28/kbi-stolen-handgun-used-death-disgraced-detective-roger-golubski/)**
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> Investigators say a stolen handgun was used in the death of disgraced Kansas City, Kansas, detective Roger Golubski.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4207 "2025-01-31T23:46:03Z")

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Des Moines, Iowa

> Video and audio recordings of the incident show that officers entered the home and announced their presence and the presence of a K-9 before searching for Mitchell. The K-9 located Mitchell in a closet, and Mitchell told officers he had a gun. The DMPD says the recordings show an officer ordering Mitchell to show his hands before Mitchell says he has a gun again. There is then “a loud noise and movement from within the closet that officers perceive as them being fired upon.” Both officers then fired their handguns.

> **[Des Moines police officers, suspect involved in deadly Jan. 24 shooting...](https://www.kcci.com/article/des-moines-shooting-officers-suspect-identified-william-perez-michael-hoopes-brandon-mitchell/63624342)**
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> The suspect was wanted on felony domestic abuse and child endangerment charges and told officers he was armed with a gun, police say.

No gun was found. Does any noise a suspect might make (banging against something for example) sound like a gun being fired?

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