# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 219
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4368 "2026-06-03T15:43:04Z")
I struggle to imagine how the MAGAts in the US would react to a Brown man stabbing a white man to death. Either full-scale riots, or … something else. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4369 "2026-06-03T16:18:42Z")
Where on the riot scale would you say Tuesday’s protests were? It is legitimate, however, to protest against police violence and incompetence. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4370 "2026-06-03T17:26:03Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > Where on the riot scale would you say Tuesday’s protests were? Don’t know, I wasn’t there, and what clips I’ve seen have been of peaceful protests. > [@DPRK](#): > > It is legitimate, however, to protest against police violence and incompetence. Agreed. I participated in the George Floyd protests, in a red town in a red county in a red state. Even got some lip from the haters. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4371 "2026-06-03T18:24:41Z")
What was the motive for the murder, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4372 "2026-06-03T19:01:18Z")
It seems just escalation from a chance encounter, with Digwa moving rapidly through the gears of unpleasant, threatening, shoving, and all the way to stabbing on the basis of very little provocation. He claimed to have taken a blow to the face but there was no swelling, bruising etc. so it’s pretty clear he was the aggressor. Also claimed he was provoked by racial slurs but the judge rejected that entirety. ---
**Author:** ![billy-jack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@billy-jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billy-jack)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4373 "2026-06-03T20:17:59Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > I struggle to imagine how the MAGAts in the US would react to a Brown man stabbing a white man to death. Either full-scale riots, or … something else. If it were the other way, they might cheer. On another board, not saying where, I am very outnumbered in opposing Trump. Any time something happens, they blame it on illegal immigrants. Two or three years of so ago, there was a typhus outbreak in Las Angeles. I repeatedly pointed out that typhus is endemic in Las Angeles and in a few other places like South Texas. Nobody needed to bring it in. There’s a typhus outbreak in Las Angeles pretty much every year including, I think, a fairly large one this year. Also, if it were brought in by illegal immigrants, there would also be an outbreak in San Diego, which there wasn’t. That didn’t matter at all to them – they had their inane talking points and stuck by them. I’m really fed up with MAGA and will never again vote for anyone again who is tied to MAGA. While I never voted for Trump because I have never trusted him at all, I still voted for a few Republicans who didn’t seem too MAGA. Now, any MAGA is too much. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4374 "2026-06-04T01:18:36Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Pretty horrendous story out of the UK that’s drawing attention because there was new footage of the police’s interactions with the victim that was released Yeah though I’m baffled at the public reaction to this though. Seriously who sees that and goes “that’s anti-white racism, by these white police officers.” rather than “thats coppers being b\_stards, and it just happened this particular instance they were caught on camera being a b\_\_stards to a white kid”. How can your reaction be “the cops need to be more racist to brown people” not “the cops should stop being b\_\_stards”!?! ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4375 "2026-06-04T01:51:29Z")
You’re expecting a logical response? Have you met people? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4376 "2026-06-04T03:11:10Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Have you met people? Baffled not necessarily surprised. Especially not with that human sh\_t stain Farage putting his oar in with the worst possible take. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4377 "2026-06-04T04:04:46Z")
> [@billy-jack](#): > > Now, any MAGA is too much. I’ve had some _MAGA Scum_ bumper stickers printed up to stick on campaign signs. My nephew calls it misdemeanor anarchy. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4378 "2026-06-09T18:14:04Z")
The Trinidad Police Chief has resigned, and has also clammed up. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/REJ7-vfCB98/maxresdefault.jpg "Trinidad Police Chief resigns after controversial arrests") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REJ7-vfCB98) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4379 "2026-06-13T01:37:57Z")
This is from last year but the dashcam footage was just released. Quick warning, it’s semi-graphic. I mean, it was on the news, but you do still see a guy get shot in shoulder. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cuxrjy86UVQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Police officer shoots fellow cop in absurd ‘horseplay’ incident") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuxrjy86UVQ) I didn’t dig into the story beyond a few videos, but I noticed they mentioned that the shooting officer was fired, but made no mention of the other two. IMO, the officer that was shot should also be fired given how he did exactly the same thing, other than not pulling the trigger. The third officer, at a minimum, deserves some sort of punishment for smirking when he should’ve been telling these two guys to put their guns away. Make an example out of him. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4380 "2026-06-18T03:27:48Z")
> Notably, the DPS statement appears to acknowledge that police witnessed the presence of [one year-old] Kohen Wiley prior to the individuals entering their vehicle, and before the officer discharged the weapon… > > Members of Kohen Wiley’s family have denied that any shoplifting took place. [WREG reported](https://wreg.com/news/local/ms-town-looks-for-answers-after-walmart-shooting-that-killed-1-year-old/) that, before the shooting, a witness saw two women exit the store: one carrying a single box of diapers, and one carrying the infant child. > **[Mississippi Police Officer Shoots and Kills 1-Year-Old Child in Response to...](https://www.mississippifreepress.org/mississippi-police-officer-shoots-and-kills-1-year-old-child-in-response-to-senatobia-shoplifting-call/)** > > A Mississippi police officer shot and killed 1-year-old Kohen Wiley at a Walmart while responding to a shoplifting call. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4381 "2026-06-18T12:11:44Z")
How about a controversial encounter between law-enforcement and dogs. There’s a pair of loose dogs running around for a few hours in the middle of the night. Cops come out, get close enough to try and coax them with some food but they can’t catch them and decide to come back in the morning. A woman manages to snag one of them, but notice that it’s been shot. While trying to figure out why it appears to be hurt, she discovers that it, and the other, were shot by an off duty cop. And more than that, the dogs were shot _while running away_, posing zero threat to the officer…who, at one point, actually reloaded his gun. > **[Thiensville police: Officer under criminal investigation after shooting two...](https://www.wisn.com/article/thiensville-police-officer-under-criminal-investigation-after-shooting-two-dogs-killing-one/71619115)** > > Thiensville police: Officer under criminal investigation after shooting two dogs, killing one This cop resigned during the investigation (which I hope is still ongoing). He resigned from another city while also under investigation. Here’s a better article. It’ll probably be paywalled (but there are unpaywalled archives of it if you want to read it) > **[They rescued a wounded dog. Then they found out a police officer shot him](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/2026/06/17/wisconsin-police-officer-resigns-after-shooting-2-dogs-killing-1/90465491007/)** > > A Thiensville police officer shot two loose dogs in Mequon, killing one and leaving the other dragging a wounded leg for weeks. Then came the fallout. > No one asked for Richard McCormick’s help. > Not a 911 caller, not a passerby, not another police officer. > Body camera footage obtained by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel showed the dogs bounding toward him, then running away as he first fired his gun. McCormick continued to shoot across the road, even after one of the dogs collapsed on the ground and howled > “If the dogs are moving away from him, what was the perceived threat?” he [retired cop that teaches other cops how to interact with dogs] said. “Once the dog flops down, again, he’s no longer a threat.” > McCormick resigned while under investigation for the shooting, marking the second time he has done so in his career > They [person that called police when he saw them] seemed “friendly,” he said, according to dispatch audio. > Brown and Toeller [officers than tried catching the dogs earlier] decided to contact the humane society when it opened the next morning. > “The dogs did not pose a current threat to ourselves or to others,” Toeller wrote. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4382 "2026-06-18T12:18:11Z")
Hey, that pacifier could have been loaded. What a horrific thing to happen. Why are they shooting suspected shoplifters in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4383 "2026-06-18T12:55:22Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > What a horrific thing to happen. Why are they shooting suspected shoplifters in the first place? Because they were also suspected of being brown. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4384 "2026-06-18T13:10:00Z")
Exactly right. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4385 "2026-06-18T13:22:21Z")
The standard excuse, unsupported by evidence: They were in fear for their lives because the scary brown people were speeding their car in the same zip code where they were standing. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4386 "2026-06-18T13:28:28Z")
Look, what if the kid pulled out a pacifier and chucked it at them? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4387 "2026-06-18T13:47:31Z")
Yeah, they’re claiming the van was headed right towards them, the only video shows the van driving away from them (but doesn’t include the shooting). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=218) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=220)