# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4428 "2026-08-30T18:36:24Z")
Just disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4429 "2026-09-01T23:03:30Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Pysher then sat down on the back porch and contacted his friends, who realized he was in the wrong place and set out to find him. But minutes later, they saw police and emergency vehicles and figured their friend would be arrested for public drunkenness. Instead, he was shot. > **[Pennsylvania police officer charged with voluntary manslaughter in killing of...](https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-wrong-house-officer-charged-f60abeceb17a9572a457615b3549bd6d)** > > A Pennsylvania police officer who fatally shot a 22-year-old college student, who had ended up at the wrong house late at night and was waiting for friends to pick him up, has been charged with voluntary manslaughter. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2026, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4430 "2026-09-01T23:38:38Z")
[Here’s a news link](https://www.wsaz.com/2026/09/01/he-should-not-be-dead-family-demands-answers-after-beloved-baby-donkey-shot-killed-by-police/). Some LEOs look for any excuse to kill an animal, even if it’s a pet, while on duty. It’s a sick and disturbing fantasy; they want to kill something, _anything_, and get away with it. I witness a close call along these lines many years ago. I had access to a GPR system at the time, and a county sheriff asked if I would scan the grounds around a rural property and look for buried bodies. (The owner was in prison for multiple murders.) While I was rolling the GPR system over the grass, the neighbor’s dog came up to the fence and started barking. One of the deputies went up to the fence, assumed a _very_ aggressive stance, _put his hand on his pistol_, and started screaming at the dog and the owner. He was unhinged. The other deputies watched him and just shrugged their shoulders. I thought he was going to shoot the dog, but the owner finally came out to get him. (Remember, there was a _fence_.) He continued to stare into the neighbor’s property for a least a couple more minutes, before going back to what he was doing before (talking with his buddies). ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4431 "2026-09-29T18:17:12Z")
I could fill up an entire other thread about law enforcement retaliating against/persecuting people who have _dared_ to speak up against Flock cameras. But I’ll save the most eggregious example (that I’ve encountered so far) here: So someone vandalized a bunch of Flock cameras in Ridge Spring, South Carolina. On the town’s Police Department Facebook page, the issue came up, and a local resident, Christian McClellan, exercised his First Amendment right and posted “Fuck you and your Flock cameras.” McClellan got a response from Police Chief Terry Logan saying that using electronic communication to disseminate profanities is against South Carolina law (no, not it isn’t) and that he would be getting a warrant and sending US Marshals to pick him up. [McClellan went to the media](https://www.wrdw.com/2026/09/23/ridge-spring-police-chief-accused-threatening-warrant-after-criticism-flock-cameras/) and the story became a Whole Thing, with the ACLU taking an interest. Meanwhile, the Ridge Spring PD’s Facebook page has been scrubbed, and according to the Ridge Spring website, the Chief of Police position is “vacant,” meaning Logan either quit, got fired, or quit before he got fired. But no one’s talking so the media is just kind of assuming that Logan is out of his job. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4432 "2026-09-29T20:00:57Z")
I know the article says the supreme court made the scope of this law narrow enough that he didn’t actually violate. However, ISTM if he’s guilty of S.C. 16-17-430(A)(1), [use in a telephonic communication or any other electronic means, any words or language of a profane, vulgar, lewd, lascivious, or an indecent nature…], then the chief is guilty of S.C. 16-17-430(A)(2) [threaten in a telephonic communication or any other electronic means an unlawful act with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass another person]. I feel like he (or the ACLU or the media or someone) should do a FOIA request to see if they’ve been searching for his plate in the Flock system. I wonder if he can get an injunction to prevent them from doing it going forward to prevent further harassment. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4433 "2026-10-02T19:29:00Z")
> Before the collision, officers made contact with the occupants of the other car, two brothers, in the 2400 block of State Road 200. The pair had been involved in an argument with each other and had pulled off to the side of the road. Officers interacted with them at that location. > > **Officers say it seems like both individuals had been drinking. Despite that interaction, officers did not investigate whether either driver was impaired before they let them back on the road.** > **[Ocala police failed to investigate possible DUI before same driver allegedly...](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2026/09/30/breaking-ocala-police-failed-to-investigate-possible-dui-before-same-driver-allegedly-caused-deadly-crash/)** > > An Ocala Police officer failed to investigate a possible DUI before a crash that killed two people early Tuesday morning. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4434 "2026-10-20T01:05:46Z")
Police attack a guy after telling him “Fart police, fart the wood”. > **[‘Fart police, fart the wood’: Aurora officers gave nonsensical warnings in...](https://www.denverpost.com/2026/10/19/aurora-police-excessive-force-lawsuit-dog-bite/)** > > Salvador Alonso Guerrero-Salmeron stayed in his bedroom when SWAT officers surrounded the house on South Yampa Court on March 3, 2023. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4435 "2026-10-20T11:30:34Z")
[![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdiQyKlxv1C6olMk5y1zRj3_5DiyIYRPyb8fGBDvmGcQZxDEbULuznndA&s=10) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdiQyKlxv1C6olMk5y1zRj3_5DiyIYRPyb8fGBDvmGcQZxDEbULuznndA&s=10) When I started seeing these images on imgur, I initially assumed they were from The Onion or some other spoof news site. This has been all over the news/social media for the past few days, but it happened in June. In fact, it happened on Juneteenth day. The short version appears to be the the mother and her 1 year old son were shopping with a friend and the friend stole some diapers. Cops tried to stop her but she drove away. Cops claimed she was trying to hit them and fired, killing one of the kids and injuring the friend/driver. Their lawyer, Ben Crump is saying the cop is full of shit WRT her trying to hit them since (like Renee Goode’s murder) the bullet entered through the side of the car. So far, the police also haven’t released the bodycam footage. As Crump says, if they really feel the shooting was justified, show us the footage. I also tend not to go straight to racism every time I hear the two involved parties were a white cop and a black victim (to be very clear, I don’t deny it’s often the case, I just don’t jump to that conclusion immediately) but this article also mentions the white police chief was recently fired for being a racist. I might be wrong, but I feel like you have to be really, really racist to be fired for being racist in Mississippi. > **[Police cleared in fatal shooting of one-year-old in Mississippi parking lot](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwj0l72d5pygo)** > > The boy was sitting in his mum's lap in the passenger seat of a car that police say was allegedly being driven at officers. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4436 "2026-10-20T13:32:51Z")
Release the body cam footage! This smells _really_ bad. That poor family. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4437 "2026-10-20T13:58:17Z")
They investigated themselves and determined they did nothing wrong. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4438 "2026-10-20T14:47:20Z")
Who did the actual investigating, and to what extent is the state AG incentivized not to charge police officers with homicide? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4439 "2026-10-20T15:49:19Z")
Hunter Foster is the name of the Senatobia, MS police officer who fired the shots. Lynn Fitch is the name of the attorney general who decided nothing was wrong with slaughtering a baby. Lots of wilderness and murky water in Mississippi. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4440 "2026-10-21T19:28:36Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So far, the police also haven’t released the bodycam footage. As Crump says, if they really feel the shooting was justified, show us the footage. The video is out. The driver did hit one of the cops (more bumped into) but the shots do appear to come from the side. The whole thing was a clusterfuck. The cops were at Walmart for an unrelated issue. They were notified that there was a shoplifter and they all ran after the car with guns drawn. Totally unnecessary. Just get the tag number and follow up later. The cops were not in danger when the shots were fired. > **[WATCH: Leaked video shows Senatobia police shooting that killed 1-year-old...](https://www.actionnews5.com/2026/10/21/watch-leaked-video-shows-moments-leading-up-deadly-senatobia-police-shooting-1-year-old-kohen-wiley/?fbclid=IwY2xjawVF3-1leHRuA2FlbQIxMABwZG9mAWJyaWQRMTFGd2dLaDYwcnFKS29RbE5zcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeHAMydbEYhih-a1tS0fSdkUoZ6d6-pq-25GjpHmCrhooaacY1MQzuBEUZZmQ_aem_Fz7oZXySWscVc0hCG5VIcg)** > > Action News 5 has obtained footage showing the Senatobia police shooting that killed 1-year-old Kohen Wiley on June 14. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4441 "2026-10-21T20:48:41Z")
I was unaware shoplifting was a capital offense. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/4442 "2026-10-21T21:08:09Z")
Only for the baby. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=221)