# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/862 "2020-12-28T21:21:34Z")
[# Off-duty deputy arrested for 2nd time after kicking woman in face, trying to cover it up](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/off-duty-deputy-arrested-for-2nd-time-after-kicking-woman-in-face-trying-to-cover-it-up/ar-BB1ci6uE?ocid=Peregrine&li=BBnb7Kz) > According to his boss, Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar, he attacked a woman early Monday. > > “He knocked her to ground and kicked her in the face,” Salazar said, adding the woman was then ‘covered in blood.’ > > Garza then allegedly forced the clothes off the woman to clean up the blood evidence. However, the victim was able to run away to a neighbor, who called police. > This isn’t Garza’s first time in trouble at work. According to Salazar, he was suspended for inappropriate force on an inmate in 2013 and lied on a polygraph test. San Antonio’s Finest! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/863 "2020-12-28T21:38:22Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > San Antonio’s Finest! Coming to a police department near you soon! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/864 "2020-12-28T21:43:11Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > That is probably why the guy was arrested - impersonating a police officer. 👍 👍 👍 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/865 "2020-12-29T04:48:15Z")
Columbus police officer Adam Coy has been fired: > **[Ohio police officer fired in fatal shooting of Black man](https://apnews.com/article/ohio-columbus-shootings-police-44e8d192397dbde3346bbf2a962f3d23)** > > COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A white Ohio police officer was fired Monday after bodycam footage showed him fatally shooting 47-year-old Andre Hill — a Black man who was holding a cellphone — and failing to administer first aid for several minutes... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/866 "2020-12-29T22:56:03Z")
Another (sadder) update from Ohio: > **[Feds decline charges against officers in Tamir Rice case](https://apnews.com/article/politics-race-and-ethnicity-shootings-tamir-rice-timothy-loehmann-19724be26194ae75d259d1f54f7992f8)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department announced Tuesday that it would not bring federal criminal charges against two Cleveland police officers in the 2014 killing of 12-year-old Tamir Rice, saying video of the shooting was of too poor a quality... ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/867 "2020-12-30T01:45:44Z")
Louisville [will be firing](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/louisville-police-move-to-fire-detective-who-obtained-breonna-taylor-warrant/ar-BB1ckx3D) the ~~p–~~ officer who obtained the no-knock warrant and the one who killed Breonna Taylor (fired the fatal shot). ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/868 "2021-01-05T23:35:38Z")
Turns out is possible to shoot someone seven times in the back in self defense. And it is possible to threaten someone with a knife when you have your back to them. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-charges-against-kenosha-officer-in-jacob-blake-shooting/ar-BB1cv47w?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-charges-against-kenosha-officer-in-jacob-blake-shooting/ar-BB1cv47w?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/869 "2021-01-05T23:46:52Z")
He had the knife in his hand on the other side of the vehicle. Why do you think the cops wrestling with him at the time, decided to jump away from him? Go watch the video again. Fuck that rapist, and I only regret the cops didn’t kill him when they shot him. Yay, Wisconsin for having their state AG take over the investigation damned near immediately, and neglect to point out either Blake’s prior criminal record, or that he was armed. Maybe if they had, Kenosha might not have burned. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/870 "2021-01-05T23:53:56Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > {…} Yay, Wisconsin for having their state AG {…} neglect to point out {…} Blake’s prior criminal record {…} 'Cause that puts a legal ‘shoot me’ target on your back! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/871 "2021-01-06T00:11:20Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Fuck that rapist, and I only regret the cops didn’t kill him when they shot him. Yay for bloodthirst! ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/872 "2021-01-06T10:02:06Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > **Fuck that rapist** , and I only regret the cops didn’t kill him when they shot him. > **[Sexual assault charge against Jacob Blake dismissed in plea agreement](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sexual-assault-charge-against-jacob-blake-dismissed-plea-bargain-agreement-n1246851)** > > Blake pleaded guilty to lesser charges of disorderly conduct and domestic abuse. > [@](#): > > A [sexual assault charge against Jacob Blake](https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/sexual-assault-charge-dropped-against-jacob-blake-court-documents-say), the Black man shot in the back by police in August, touching off weeks of protests in Wisconsin, was dropped Friday, according to court records. …fake news. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/873 "2021-01-06T13:19:47Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I only regret the cops didn’t kill him when they shot him. My, you _are_ a hateful little fuck, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/874 "2021-01-06T18:29:40Z")
Hopefully these officers won’t see this as a punishment but as an opportunity to [find something new](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/ivanka-trump-find-something-new-unemployment/index.html). 😃 > **[2 detectives involved in Breonna Taylor's death are fired](https://apnews.com/article/breonna-taylor-cops-fired-910c87438ebc09e74eac8a4f4678fb63)** > > LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Two more officers involved in the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor have been fired — a detective believed to have fired the fatal shot and another who sought the search warrant that led to the deadly raid, authorities announced... ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/875 "2021-01-06T20:24:07Z")
Protesters mob the US Capitol building to disrupt the electoral vote count. Police watch, allow them inside, evacuate Congress and let them roam the chambers. White Wing Privilege ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/876 "2021-01-06T20:53:42Z")
I wonder what would have happened if the protesters had been black. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/877 "2021-01-07T17:47:46Z")
There would be tear gas, baton strikes, a dozen bodies laying in the street… ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/878 "2021-01-09T22:39:28Z")
If you are black and move a car in the general direction of a cop, he is justified in killing you. But if you are white a drive car admittedly deliberately into BLM protestor’s, that’s OK. [White man who drove into Iowa protesters avoids prison](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/white-man-who-drove-into-iowa-protesters-avoids-prison/ar-BB1cAAmd?ocid=Peregrine) The title is misleading. He doesn’t avoid prison, he avoids consequences. He doesn’t get a slap on the wrist. The slap was suspended. If gets into trouble within the next three years…_THEN_ he gets a slap on the wrist. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/879 "2021-01-10T01:58:54Z")
Perhaps [this belongs in another thread](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/black-capitol-police-racism-mob) > [@](#): > > The (black Capitol Police) officer even described coming face to face with police officers from across the country in the mob. He said some of them flashed the badges, telling him to let them through, and trying to explain that this was all part of a movement that was supposed to help. > > “You have the nerve to be holding a blue lives matter flag, and you are out there fucking us up,” he told one group of protestors he encountered inside the Capitol. “[One guy] pulled out his badge and he said, ‘we’re doing this for you.’ Another guy had his badge. So I was like, ‘well, you gotta be kidding.’” > … > “We were telling them to back up and get away and stop, and they’re telling us, they are on our side, and they’re doing this for us, and they’re saying this as I’m getting punched in my face by one of them … That happened to a lot of us. We were getting pepper sprayed in the face by those protesters, I’m not going to even call them protestors, by those domestic terrorists,” said (another) officer. > > … what upset him the most was when he later saw images of a white colleague taking a selfie with the attackers, seeming to enjoy his time with the insurrectionists … “Our chief was nowhere to be found, I didn’t hear him on the radio. One of our other deputy chiefs was not there …You don’t think it’s all hands on deck?” … > > Soon he was screaming, so that everyone in the rotunda, including his white colleagues, could hear what he had just gone through. “These are racist ass terrorists … I got called a nigger 15 times today,” the veteran officer shouted in the rotunda to no one in particular. “Trump did this and we got all of these fucking people in our department that voted for him. How the fuck can you support him?” ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/880 "2021-01-10T04:53:56Z")
That really pissed me off because not only could my daughter or her roommate been in that protest but the guy drove away and came back. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/881 "2021-01-10T04:56:36Z")
And tonight I was reminded of this video [What Really Happened at Standing Rock | I Was There - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1yD2J8vHAk&ab_channel=VICE) compared to what I watched Live as it happened in our Capitol. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=45)