# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/122 "2020-08-13T18:11:04Z")
I guess the punishment for a cop making a racist false 911 call is to be allowed to retire with full pension. I doubt it hurts his cause that he is the nephew of the former police chief. 🤬 > **[Off-duty cop's 911 call about Black youths raises questions](https://apnews.com/d7e5a2030802b12dc104cc2a5d1f30af)** > > ELIZABETHTOWN, N.Y. (AP) — The 911 call from a white, off-duty police officer around the height of the George Floyd protests in early June sounded ominous: A group of Black youths had menaced him outside his upstate New York getaway, he said,... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/123 "2020-08-14T18:12:36Z")
When qualified immunity isn’t enough, cops can now invoke Stand Your Ground laws (in Georgia, maybe): > **[Georgia court ponders charges for deputies in stun gun death](https://apnews.com/679b3ff7b37ecdecb143e68824c9d239)** > > ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia's Supreme Court is deciding whether three sheriff's deputies should be immune from prosecution in the 2017 death of a Black man who authorities repeatedly shot with a stun gun. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/124 "2020-08-15T02:18:43Z")
The Tennessee cop who ripped the mask off the guy who was recording a cop encounter has been terminated. > **[THP trooper who ripped face mask off protester terminated](https://www.wkrn.com/news/crime-tracker/thp-trooper-who-ripped-face-mask-off-terminated/)** > > A Tennessee Highway Patrol trooper that was caught on cellphone video ripping a face mask off a protester at the state capitol has been terminated. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/125 "2020-08-15T02:42:55Z")
I imagine for some folks, the solution to this is to ban cellphone videos. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/126 "2020-08-15T04:16:16Z")
NOTE: this is NOT the same story I linked to a few hours ago: > **[Georgia trooper charged with murder in traffic stop shooting](https://apnews.com/a0150795ca1837b86458791f731f88f0)** > > SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) — A Georgia state trooper was fired and charged with murder Friday a week after he shot a 60-year-old man who tried to flee a rural traffic stop, authorities said... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/127 "2020-08-15T04:18:02Z")
I’ll put this here too: > **[Texas doctors warn of police use of 'less lethal' munitions](https://apnews.com/1594bbd4332b7df29260f4b08fd2b6a0)** > > AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A group of doctors in Austin, Texas, warned Friday against police use of so-called “less lethal” munitions for crowd control after they treated people who were severely hurt during protests in May... ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/128 "2020-08-15T13:13:08Z")
Florida sheriff named Darryl, what could possibly go wronger. > **[A Florida GOP sheriff allegedly ordered the arrest of his mistress. Now he’s...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/14/sheriff-arrested-florida-jail/)** > > Clay County Sheriff Darryl Daniels, a Republican, refuses to resign or drop out of his reelection race ahead of the vote Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/129 "2020-08-15T14:15:09Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Florida sheriff named Darryl, what could possibly go wronger. And this is my other brother Darryl. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/130 "2020-08-17T11:09:38Z")
So apparently if you’re black you not only aren’t safe calling the police for an emergency, you aren’t safe calling an ambulance… [https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minneapolis-woman-says-police-ems-used-ketamine-on-boyfriend-because-hes-black](https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/minneapolis-woman-says-police-ems-used-ketamine-on-boyfriend-because-hes-black) (this has gotten as far as the Australian facebook ecosystem which doesn’t often happen … it’s pretty horrifying) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/131 "2020-08-19T20:25:56Z")
I know you won’t believe this, but a Sheriff’s Deputy lied when he said a black man attacked him. Instead, [body cam footage shows he attacked the black man](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/body-cam-footage-shows-sheriffs-deputy-shove-raptors-exec-at-nba-finals/ar-BB189CHx). > Strickland, who was working as a security guard during the NBA Finals, initially filed a lawsuit against Ujiri in February alleging that the Raptors executive aggressively confronted him and “hit him in the face and chest with both fists.” > > However, video of their encounter showed that Strickland twice pushed Ujiri as he tried to show his credentials and get through a guarded area after the Raptors defeated the Golden State Warriors to win the NBA Finals in Oakland, Calif. The 20-second clip showed Strickland repeatedly shoving Ujiri as he walked to the court. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/132 "2020-08-19T20:53:10Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I know you won’t believe this, but a Sheriff’s Deputy lied when he said a black man attacked him. Instead, [body cam footage shows he attacked the black man](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/body-cam-footage-shows-sheriffs-deputy-shove-raptors-exec-at-nba-finals/ar-BB189CHx). And it took this long for this video to be presented because … ? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/133 "2020-08-19T21:25:10Z")
I watched the video, that black man deliberately attacked the officers hands with his chest. ^sarcasim^ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/134 "2020-08-20T03:42:14Z")
Did we cover this one? I don’t recall seeing it: [https://apnews.com/8629735f26f497ec0bcba629e5e90a74](https://apnews.com/8629735f26f497ec0bcba629e5e90a74) Here’s body cam footage from one of the ~~officers~~ uniformed thugs: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zZaaN-tMpys/maxresdefault.jpg "Man sues Colorado Springs, several officers after being tazed in hospital ICU") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZaaN-tMpys) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/135 "2020-08-20T22:47:18Z")
Nashville: > **[Chief: Tennessee officers broke down door of innocent family](https://apnews.com/1de30a10172fac3ad4bd3fbed81d4e8d)** > > NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Three white Tennessee police officers have had their police powers suspended after they broke down the door of an innocent Black family early Tuesday morning... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/136 "2020-08-20T22:48:23Z")
Louisville: > **[Kentucky: Elderly whites protest for slain Black woman](https://apnews.com/019f6eaeb1f2c7b8fcaa95f9bc8a5ff3)** > > LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Unable to march in the streets, a group of white senior citizens staged a sit-in outside the home of Kentucky's attorney general to demand justice for Breonna Taylor on Thursday... ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/137 "2020-08-21T00:55:45Z")
Its official. Cops are racist thugs. [# White Georgia cop says he did nothing wrong in body-slamming Black man, breaking his wrist](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/white-georgia-cop-says-he-did-nothing-wrong-in-body-slamming-black-man-breaking-his-wrist/ar-BB18apie) Black, standing and calmly talking with a white officer, when a different white officer comes up behind him, grabs him in a bear hug and body slammed him to the ground. > According to attorneys, Wheeler believed Smith was that man and had an outstanding arrest warrant, the Associated Press [reported](https://www.apnews.com/20b67903eb4986bc1636a075ec61c31d). That was not the case, and the man with the warrant had been detained nearby. Racist, violent AND incompetent. Trifecta! > Wheeler’s lawyers described their client’s actions as “objectively reasonable,” according to the AP. Objectively reasonable. Violent, unnecessary, and the wrong fucking guy. ‘Reasonable’ has lost all meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/138 "2020-08-21T01:05:16Z")
[# New Mexico settles $6.5M agreement with family of man from fatal chokehold arrest](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-mexico-settles-dollar65m-agreement-with-family-of-man-from-fatal-chokehold-arrest/ar-BB18coth) > “I’m going to (expletive) choke you out, bro,” Smelser told Valenzuela, which can be heard in police footage. > Smelser was fired after the autopsy was released and charged with involuntary manslaughter, a fourth-degree felony, before the Attorney General’s office upgraded the charge to second-degree murder. Involuntary manslaughter. He told him what he was gonna do, then he did it. Where was the involuntary part? At least they upped the charge, probably due to pressure from citizens > There are four types of people who join the military. For some, it’s a family trade. Others are patriots, eager to serve. Next, you have those who just need a job. Then there’s the kind who want a legal means of killing other people. Jack Reacher quote. Seems to apply pretty well to cops. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/139 "2020-08-21T03:13:55Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Nashville: > [Chief: Tennessee officers broke down door of innocent family | AP News](https://apnews.com/1de30a10172fac3ad4bd3fbed81d4e8d) Here’s video: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/N23tyVD07Dw/maxresdefault.jpg "Chief: Tennessee officers raid wrong home; breaks down door of innocent family") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N23tyVD07Dw) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/140 "2020-08-21T18:44:19Z")
Why the fuck do you show up in riot gear and a battering ram for a 16 yr old kid suspected of breaking into cars??? Oh, let me guess/ He’s black? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/141 "2020-08-21T22:35:59Z")
Camera discovered on a telephone pole pointed at a union activist’s house. The Memphis power company admitted the phone was installed by Memphis police. > **[Activists find camera inside mysterious box on power pole near union...](https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/local/activists-find-camera-inside-mysterious-box-power-pole-near-union-organizers-home/5WCLOAMMBRGYBEJDGH6C74ITBU/)** > > FOX13 found out it’s a surveillance camera that belongs to Memphis Police. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=8)