# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 93
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1846 "2021-06-12T21:07:50Z")
I was pulled over on the 10 fwy right where it splits off near downtown. He actually told me (over the loudspeaker) to go to the next exit (which was a ways away) since there wasn’t room on the side of the road. Why do you have to stop RIGHT NOW? Just cops with a god complex. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1847 "2021-06-13T04:31:01Z")
Federal civil lawsuit filed against Minnesota police for arresting the wrong red car’s driver, passenger and detaining their kids. " For nearly 40 minutes, Terry and Nancy told Officer Thurber he had the wrong car. They offered to pull up the Tesla’s recording system [that shows speed and location data]. They pleaded with the officers to review dash camera and other police videos that captured the events before the stop." Also a list with summaries of other high profile incidents in Minnesota. > **[Officers across Minnesota allowed to turn off body cameras in middle of...](https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/officers-across-minnesota-allowed-to-turn-off-body-cameras-in-middle-of-investigations/)** > > Body-worn camera footage reviewed by 5 INVESTIGATES shows officers turning off or muting cameras even when the incident led to civil lawsuits and criminal investigations into their own conduct ... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1848 "2021-06-13T13:47:06Z")
From @mistymage’s cite: > [@mistymage](#): > > Body-worn camera footage reviewed by 5 INVESTIGATES shows officers turning off or muting cameras even when the incident led to civil lawsuits and criminal investigations into their own conduct … Underlining mine. I think they mean “especially”. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1849 "2021-06-13T17:45:14Z")
You missed the “5 investigates” 😃 (could not bring myself to capslock investigates) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1850 "2021-06-13T18:29:12Z")
I think that’s the name of the news feature on Channel 5 in that market, at least that’s how I read it. So something like “footage reviewed by us shows officers turning off or muting cameras.” ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1851 "2021-06-13T20:16:43Z")
I think you are right. It just reads funny but I bet it sounds ok as a sound byte. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1852 "2021-06-14T12:02:17Z")
Minneapolis: > **[Attorneys: Woman never saw a gun on man shot by task force](https://apnews.com/article/mn-state-wire-death-of-daunte-wright-shootings-21a74a53597cd4f2964f190ddd454ac1)** > > MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The woman who was in a vehicle when members of a federal U.S. Marshals Service task force fatally shot the driver last week said she never saw a gun on the man or in the vehicle, her attorneys said Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1853 "2021-06-14T19:31:38Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > In his phrase, “Lights and especially lights plus a burp of siren means ‘Pull over right NOW!’” That’s when he gets a brake check. “But officer, I was told by one of your coworkers…” and give a badge number. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > I think they mean “especially”. Body cam footage that is mysteriously unavailable should be interpreted in the worst way possible for the officer involved, kind of like in tax court. “Oh, you had all these deductions but lost the receipts? No deduction for you, sir.” ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1854 "2021-06-15T05:00:31Z")
I am usually ok with bad cops/incompetent cops/racist cops being at fault. but this one gives me pause. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1855 "2021-06-15T13:38:32Z")
It would be easy to clear up with body camera footage. Oh, there is none, so it’s her word against the cops? We know that cops routinely lie and plant evidence, so I have no reason to believe their story. They could have used their body cameras, but chose not to, implying that they were planning on murdering this guy and lying about it. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1856 "2021-06-15T14:45:49Z")
From the annals of “It Strains Credulity That These Things Even Exist …” I give you … Brady Cops: > **[Brady disclosure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_disclosure)** > > In the legal system of the United States, a Brady disclosure consists of exculpatory or impeaching information and evidence that is material to the guilt or innocence or to the punishment of a defendant. The term comes from the 1963 U.S. Supreme Court case Brady v. Maryland, in which the Supreme Court ruled that suppression by the prosecution of evidence favorable to a defendant who has requested it violates due process. > Following Brady, the prosecutor must disclose evidence or information that ... Specifically … > - Police officers who have been dishonest are sometimes referred to as “Brady cops.” Because of the Brady ruling, prosecutors are required to notify defendants and their attorneys whenever a law enforcement official involved in their case has a sustained record for knowingly lying in an official capacity. The growing use of Brady, both in the federal and state sectors, is one of the most important changes affecting police officers’ employment. (ie, “Sergeant Smith _says_ he saw the defendant point a gun at the victim, but – in fairness – Sergeant Smith has a well-documented propensity for Lying His Ass Off, so … y’know … take that with a grain of salt.”) Really ? #Murica ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1857 "2021-06-15T15:05:33Z")
It says the incident happened in a “parking ramp”, which I assume means one of those multi-level parking structures. In this day and age, there are security cameras fucking everywhere. But not there, apparently. It makes one wonder if the LEAs are starting to compile maps of locations where they can do the thing they do without being recorded by fixed cameras. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1858 "2021-06-15T16:46:38Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/3-officers-injured-after-being-assaulted-by-an-iron-pipe-wielding-man/ar-AAL4xFl](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/3-officers-injured-after-being-assaulted-by-an-iron-pipe-wielding-man/ar-AAL4xFl) So…a man assaults 3 officers, gets one of their weapons and the cops were able to disarm him. Despite him having a gun and already visiting violence against officers, the cops did not shoot him. I suspect this is a white boy. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1859 "2021-06-15T16:48:27Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I suspect this is a white boy. I would not bet against it. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1860 "2021-06-15T17:07:13Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I would not bet against it. Good bet, at least the Matthew Dale Hatley of Marked Tree, Arkansas (thanks Facebook!) is definitely a white dude. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1861 "2021-06-15T17:49:21Z")
Maybe it was because he voluntarily got into the police car. I mean, he then beat a cop with a pipe, stole a gun and fired a shot, but he _did_ get into the police car. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1862 "2021-06-15T19:25:16Z")
Atlanta (belatedly): > **[Echoes of Breonna Taylor in shooting of Black man in Georgia](https://apnews.com/article/breonna-taylor-george-floyd-georgia-shootings-2b47ffa9db88b3848799e97b94417086)** > > ATLANTA (AP) — Johnny Lorenzo Bolton was lying with his eyes closed on a couch in his apartment near Atlanta when police serving a narcotics search warrant burst through the front door with guns drawn and no warning. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1863 "2021-06-15T20:14:28Z")
Cops in Ocean City, Maryland tase a teenager for allegedly vaping on the boardwalk. Then knee him while he’s lying on the ground. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/JfqhPMUom9g/maxresdefault.jpg "Video goes viral showing use of force during arrest in Ocean City") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfqhPMUom9g) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1864 "2021-06-15T20:53:54Z")
The manager of a Shake Shack in New York City are suing three police officers and the police unions for defaming him and falsely arresting him after they claimed he had put toxic substances in their shakes. There was no evidence that any toxic substances were in the shakes, and the cops had no symptoms of being poisoned. > **[Shake Shack manager accused of poisoning shakes sues NYPD officers, union for...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shake-shack-manager-accused-poisoning-officers-shakes-sues-nypd-defamation-n1270908)** > > Marcus Gilliam says that police defamed him and damaged his reputation when they falsely accused him last year of putting a toxic substance in their drinks. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1865 "2021-06-15T21:16:58Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Why do you have to stop RIGHT NOW? To show that you RESPEC’ HIS AUTHORITAH! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=92) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=94)