# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1866 "2021-06-15T22:52:59Z")
Cops are a far greater threat to health and liberty of society than narcotics. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1867 "2021-06-16T07:18:07Z")
More from Honolulu: > **[Video shows man apologized before Honolulu police shot him](https://apnews.com/article/hi-state-wire-honolulu-racial-injustice-police-race-and-ethnicity-eabcb96fc27efadc5d71eb467cfe2e5b)** > > HONOLULU (AP) — Doorbell camera video obtained and made public by lawyers representing the family of a man fatally shot two months ago by Honolulu police provides more information about the events that unfolded before the deadly encounter with... ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1868 "2021-06-16T11:46:44Z")
Another Honolulu case: > **[An officer shot a 16-year-old eight times in an idling car. Now he’s charged...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/16/honolulu-police-shooting-death-charges/)** > > Honolulu prosecutors announced charges against the three offices in the shooting that resulted in the death of the 16-year-old Iremamber Sykap. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1869 "2021-06-17T13:17:57Z")
Portland, Oregon: it was just a push, a gentle nudge. > **[Portland police officer indicted on protest assault charge](https://apnews.com/article/portland-police-government-and-politics-df2a4b986cb293974dd627a3328278b5)** > > PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A Multnomah County grand jury has returned an indictment against a Portland police officer accusing him of hitting an Oregon protester in the head with a baton in 2020. The indictment marks the first time in the county an... ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1870 "2021-06-17T21:24:02Z")
O.K., I understand it was an accident. But I am wondering what would happen to me if I were to accidently run over someone. At the very least I’m sure I would be charged with involuntary manslaughter. It will be interesting to see if this officer is charged with anything. > **[A police cruiser struck a shooting victim, who later died, and an Ohio police...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/us/springfield-ohio-man-death-police-cruiser/index.html)** > > A Springfield, Ohio, man has died after reportedly being shot by an assailant and then accidentally struck by a police cruiser that was responding to the scene, according to officials. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1871 "2021-06-17T23:58:00Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Another Honolulu case: This is why cops hate bodycams. They just can’t shoot people and then make up a reason anymore. > Prosecutors said body camera footage contradicted the officers’ claims that the teen had tried to drive into them and that they were protecting nearby pedestrians ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1872 "2021-06-18T02:48:06Z")
A black man in Tennessee called 911 because a 14 year old girl, driving a car without a license, crashed into a building. They arrested him. > **[Black Tennessee Man Calls 911 to Report Rogue 14-Year-Old White Girl Who...](https://atlantablackstar.com/2021/06/17/black-tennessee-man-calls-911-to-report-rogue-14-year-old-white-girl-who-crashed-a-car-but-he-ends-up-arrested-and-jailed-now-hes-suing-the-city/)** > > A Black Tennessee man has filed a lawsuit claiming his civil rights were violated when he was wrongfully arrested after calling 911 when a 14-year-old ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1873 "2021-06-18T02:49:22Z")
An off duty cop was arrested and has resigned after he pulled a gun on a civilian during a road rage incident. > **[Cop Arrested, Resigns After Off-Duty Road Rage Incident Involving Gun](https://www.newsweek.com/cop-arrested-resigns-after-pointing-gun-motorist-off-duty-road-rage-incident-1600995)** > > Decherd Police Officer Matthew Ward has been charged with aggravated assault after he pointed his department-issued handgun at a driver and ordered him to get on the ground in Rutherford County, police said. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1874 "2021-06-18T04:41:55Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > then accidentally struck by a police cruiser that was responding to the scene, according to officials. See photo: [![](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/ohio-cop-runs-over-shooting-victim-273.jpg) ](https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/06/ohio-cop-runs-over-shooting-victim-273.jpg) It’s hard to see how she didn’t see him. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1875 "2021-06-18T12:08:36Z")
Bakersfield, CA: > **[Docs show Bakersfield police broke bones in 31 people](https://apnews.com/article/ca-state-wire-george-floyd-death-of-george-floyd-bakersfield-business-e873aabd66d6478845a20d90778d0d5c)** > > BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (AP) — On Nov. 24, 2017, Robert Cruz Jr. biked north along Baker Street, on a quiet block straddling Bakersfield’s once-thriving old town and struggling new, restaurants interspersed with a rehab center and a prepaid phone store. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1876 "2021-06-18T12:11:27Z")
Atlanta: > **[Students pulled from car by Atlanta police sue city](https://apnews.com/article/atlanta-death-of-george-floyd-8e640a30cb734c858a462a3d121221fe)** > > ATLANTA (AP) — Atlanta police had no justification for pulling two students from their car and hitting them with stun guns while they were stuck in traffic caused by protests over George Floyd's death, a lawsuit filed Thursday says. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1877 "2021-06-18T13:12:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A black man in Tennessee called 911 because a 14 year old girl, driving a car without a license, crashed into a building. They arrested him. This is the coppiest cop story summary of all time. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1878 "2021-06-18T13:47:39Z")
Yeah, holy shit! The article is worse – the sergeant tried to get the parents to press charges against the man. They refused (probably because they knew their daughter had fucked up), so the sergeant pressed charges anyway and the man went to jail. He didn’t even get all his possessions back. The cops searched his car without his permission, and didn’t search the car of the 14-year old driver. Fucking bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1879 "2021-06-18T13:57:12Z")
This: > In all 31 cases involving broken bones, the Bakersfield Police Department determined that none of the officers involved violated departmental policy. This “departmental policy” shit. IMO that’s the bottom line of nearly all of the crap that LEOs get away with. “Departmental policy” is specifically written to cover their asses. It’s infuriating. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1880 "2021-06-18T14:45:34Z")
[https://news.yahoo.com/entire-portland-police-rapid-response-235945217.html](https://news.yahoo.com/entire-portland-police-rapid-response-235945217.html) Bye bye, don’t let the door hit you in the go fuck yourself. (Naturally this is just an add-on status, the cops stay as cops, it’s purely symbolic.) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1881 "2021-06-20T03:49:35Z")
Pakistani cops learning to do it American Style! [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-officers-arrested-and-detained-fast-food-restaurant-workers-for-refusing-to-give-them-free-burgers-cctv-footage-shows/ar-AALdm3u?li=BBnbfcL](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-officers-arrested-and-detained-fast-food-restaurant-workers-for-refusing-to-give-them-free-burgers-cctv-footage-shows/ar-AALdm3u?li=BBnbfcL) Extorting free stuff and _RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!_ if the don’t comply. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1882 "2021-06-20T14:46:16Z")
Here’s a fairly long article detailing how Australia does _not_ have a free press (the police arrest journalists, there are secret trials, etc.): > **[Australia accused of 'excessive and unnecessary' secrecy](https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-australia-15029370cec301172244fe168b4b9dd6)** > > CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia’s suppression of information seen as pivotal to a free and open media is at the center of accusations that the country has become one of the world’s most secretive democracies. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1883 "2021-06-20T15:08:34Z")
Some interesting courtroom maneuvers in Wisconsin: > **[Family seeks 2nd chance at charging officer in man's death](https://apnews.com/article/shootings-81dcc1efe03fab75ff9a0a1ed1a294c7)** > > MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A judge will decide this week whether there's enough evidence to charge a Wisconsin police officer who killed a man sitting in a parked car, after the man's family invoked a rarely used legal process in a bid to get around... ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1884 "2021-06-23T21:32:00Z")
Respect my AUTHORITAH!!! Teen who had done nothing wrong but wear darker skin deemed ‘suspicious’, therefore criminal. Teen had more right to be there than the cop. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/florida-teen-repeatedly-tased-in-girlfriends-backyard-by-trooper-who-found-him-suspicious/ar-AALmmte?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/florida-teen-repeatedly-tased-in-girlfriends-backyard-by-trooper-who-found-him-suspicious/ar-AALmmte?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1885 "2021-06-24T03:06:19Z")
One that worked out OK. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/black-man-held-at-gunpoint-by-police-handcuffed-after-false-911-call/ar-AALmNVs](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/black-man-held-at-gunpoint-by-police-handcuffed-after-false-911-call/ar-AALmNVs) > In a bad situation, cops acted with professionalism. > “It seems like this is a ‘Let’s get the police to mess with him’ thing because now they’re not even answering their phone,” an officer said in the video. > > The officers then removed the handcuffs from Bomar and let him go. > > “I’m sorry for the misunderstanding,” one of the officers told Bomar, shaking the man’s hand. “I hope your day gets better. I apologize.” I hope the 911 caller get’s his ass handed to him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=95)