# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 95
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1886 "2021-06-24T14:13:53Z")
One bad cop, one good cop and a payout of $175,000. Link to the video: [https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/o6qymj/officer\_tries\_to\_chase\_down\_a\_protester\_for/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/o6qymj/officer_tries_to_chase_down_a_protester_for/) Link to the follow up: > **[Commerce City Pays $175K for Botched Arrest of "F\*ck Bad Cops" Protester](https://www.westword.com/news/commerce-city-pays-175k-for-botched-arrest-of-bad-cops-protester-11047347)** > > Commerce City has agreed to settle a lawsuit over an attempted arrest of a protester exercising his free-speech rights on public property. And for those who don’t want to click either link: "Here’s the dialogue between Morgan (good cop\*) and Dickey (bad cop\*), as laid out in the lawsuit. Morgan: “Why are you chasing him?” Dickey: “He’s under arrest.” Morgan: “For what?” Dickey: “For trespassing and disorderly conduct.” Morgan: “It’s not disorderly conduct.” Dickey: “When he’s in front of the building yelling, ‘Fuck everybody…’” Morgan: “That’s not — it’s public property. Freedom of speech. Relax.” Dickey: “He refused to give his ID…which he’s required to do.” Morgan: “For why?” Dickey: “So I can issue him a citation for trespassing.” Morgan: “It’s not trespassing.”" - I added the in parentheses bits for clarity but I think the actual dialogue is clear enough. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1887 "2021-06-25T03:07:04Z")
If you ever think of being a Good Samaritan: > **[“Good Samaritan” in Olde Town Arvada shooting was killed by police, source says](https://www.denverpost.com/2021/06/24/johnny-hurley-arvada-police-shooting/)** > > The “good Samaritan” credited by police with saving lives by intervening with an active shooter in Olde Town Arvada this week was shot and killed by an Arvada police officer, a source f… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1888 "2021-06-25T14:47:02Z")
Louisiana (still): > **[AP: Police clung to crash theory in Black man's fatal arrest](https://apnews.com/article/ronald-greene-death-louisiana-police-racial-injustice-3447d0329d1fc356c828ff992bb0a423)** > > MONROE, La. (AP) — More than a year and a half after Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video brutalizing Black motorist Ronald Greene during his fatal arrest, police brass were still trying to blame his death on a car crash at the... > [@](#): > > More than a year and a half after Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video brutalizing Black motorist Ronald Greene during his fatal arrest, police brass were still trying to blame his death on a car crash at the end of a high-speed chase. > > Police officials quietly commissioned a study late last year into the role the crash could have played in Greene’s 2019 death, part of a behind-the-scenes bid to reduce the agency’s legal liability, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1889 "2021-06-25T21:34:42Z")
22 1/2 years: > **[Derek Chauvin sentenced to 22 1/2 years in death of George Floyd](https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/derek-chauvin/?id=78469886)** > > Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis Police officer convicted in the death of George Floyd, was sentenced Friday. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1890 "2021-06-25T22:05:00Z")
Fuckin A. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1891 "2021-06-27T00:04:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Police officials quietly commissioned a study late last year into the role the crash could have played in Greene’s 2019 death, part of a behind-the-scenes bid to reduce the agency’s legal liability, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press. Because truth and law mean absolutely nothing to these people. “Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?” They should ALL be fired. The entire fucking agency. Rotten to the core. They need to start over. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1892 "2021-06-27T04:11:06Z")
Police in Brookings OR [stopped a woman riding a scooter](https://katu.com/news/local/handicapped-brookings-woman-arrested-for-using-mobility-scooter-suing-city-police-department) and told her that it was not allowed (a powered mobility device prescribed by her doctor) on the sidewalk. Words were exchanged. There was a chase. It could have been worse. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1893 "2021-06-27T10:48:05Z")
Honolulu: > **[3 Honolulu police officers face charges in fatal shooting](https://apnews.com/article/honolulu-shootings-police-faf28bad11b39a5915edbddd5db0fe5e)** > > Three Honolulu police officers have appeared in court to face charges in connection with the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old Micronesian boy. > [@](#): > > Three Honolulu police officers appeared in court on Friday to face charges in connection with the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old Micronesian boy, the first cases of their kind against law enforcement in the city in more than 40 years. > > The officers were not asked to enter pleas during the hearing, when they were officially informed of the charges that they face. > > The April 5 shooting killed Iremamber Sykap, who police and prosecutors have said was driving a stolen car linked to an armed robbery, burglary, purse-snatching and car theft. Sykap led officers on a chase immediately before the shooting, authorities have said. > > Officer Geoffrey H.L. Thom fired 10 rounds at Sykap through the rear window of the Honda using a 9 mm Glock semi-automatic firearm, prosecutors said. The five-year police department veteran fired the shots “without provocation” after the car came to a stop at an intersection, according to court documents. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1894 "2021-06-27T12:15:35Z")
Columbia, South Carolina: > **[Facebook arrest video leads to protests in South Carolina](https://apnews.com/article/sc-state-wire-south-carolina-arrests-sports-60c041725131f7b9a92299ed6ebe21ee)** > > COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — Demonstrators converged outside a South Carolina police station for a second day Thursday, protesting the arrest of two men by officers in Rock Hill who were recorded on a Facebook video wrestling and throwing punches with the... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1895 "2021-06-27T14:35:24Z")
This Paterson, NJ cop is back on the streets after a judge let him out on bail; he sure seems like a clear danger to the public to me: > **[Judge allows release of Paterson police officer accused of assaulting victim](https://patersontimes.com/2021/06/16/judge-allows-release-of-paterson-police-officer-accused-of-assaulting-victim/)** > > A Passaic County judge allowed the release of a police officer accused of assaulting a victim. > > Spencer Finch, 44, of Mahwah, will be released from the Bergen County Jail on Wednesday. He had been held at the jail since his arrest on Friday. > > Passaic... Here’s the video: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jgz_ECdq2lw/maxresdefault.jpg "NJ Cop Assaults Black Man Picking Up His Kids") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgz_ECdq2lw) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1896 "2021-06-29T04:25:50Z")
> **[Brooklyn man beaten unconscious after high-speed chase by NYPD cops who...](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-brookyln-man-knocked-out-nypd-lawsuit-20210628-vltr2fdzpzgkfo3jmwqaskfmte-story.html)** > > The chilling chase and beatdown unfolded after Naveed Azam, 35, picked up his brother and a friend from a Gravesend restaurant on Sep. 12 and an unmarked car began following them, Azam told the Daily News. The cops thought he was involved in a shooting. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1897 "2021-07-01T00:06:09Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Police in Brookings OR [stopped a woman riding a scooter](https://katu.com/news/local/handicapped-brookings-woman-arrested-for-using-mobility-scooter-suing-city-police-department) and told her that it was not allowed (a powered mobility device prescribed by her doctor) on the sidewalk. Words were exchanged. There was a chase. It could have been worse. That’s a tricky one, because although it appears she has a clear-cut legal case and should win on that basis (esp WRT the helmet violation - she’s not riding a motorbike and the chances of falling off a mobility scooter while it’s in motion are teeny tiny), I’m not at all sure that someone whose main disability is impaired vision is safe to be riding a mobility scooter on a public street. We might need new laws about those scooters - riding them while drunk would be dangerous too. I don’t know of any laws in my region (the UK) that applies to them in any sense that would stand up in a court of law unless, possibly, they actually killed somebody. (I’m very much not anti-mobility scooters, FWIW. They can change people’s lives. But they’re not without risks to pedestrians and road users). ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1898 "2021-07-01T01:12:37Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > they’re not without risks to pedestrians True. I was once hit by one in the ankle while I was standing still on a downtown San Francisco street. I said “Ow!” Not so much as a murmur of apology. I let it, and the offender, go. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1899 "2021-07-01T01:24:50Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > True. I was once hit by one in the ankle while I was standing still on a downtown San Francisco street. I said “Ow!” Not so much as a murmur of apology. I let it, and the offender, go. The irony is that the people they’re most likely to cause serious injury to are other people with disabilities. Macular degeneration is common and doesn’t necessarily mean you’re unsafe to ride a mobility scooter, but if it’s so bad that it’s part of your disability claim then you are probably unsafe to even ride a bike - pedal cycle. Not as bad as the many drivers who continue to drive cars when they are definitely not safe to due to medical problems, of course. Maybe in that area this is the least-bad option. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1900 "2021-07-01T03:09:05Z")
The main road through Brookings is US 101, the pacific coast highway. It is a 4-lane street that is pretty busy most of the year (though probably not what it is like in Malibu or Santa Barbara). If they were citing her for riding on the 101 sidewalk, that is just outright ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1901 "2021-07-01T12:07:16Z")
Georgia: > **[No indictment for Georgia officer who killed Black driver](https://apnews.com/article/ga-state-wire-courts-georgia-indictments-shootings-5e647e37f86043b0b96ae1044773ec6f)** > > ATLANTA (AP) — A grand jury has declined to indict a former Georgia state trooper who shot and killed a Black man last year after trying to pull him over for a broken tail light. Jacob Thompson, who worked for the Georgia State Patrol, had been... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1902 "2021-07-02T12:21:03Z")
How about some (relatively) good news: > **[Firing upheld for officer who sought Breonna Taylor warrant](https://apnews.com/article/breonna-taylor-shootings-c0d9ab66364bf26363bf750e89a72b15)** > > LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — The Kentucky police detective who sought the no-knock search warrant that led to the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor has had his firing upheld. The Louisville Metro Police Merit Board voted 4-0 on Wednesday to uphold the... ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1903 "2021-07-02T18:49:24Z")
The fucking Chief, ferchissakes… [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-police-chief-resigns-after-putting-kkk-sign-on-black-officers-desk/ar-AALHZiN?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-police-chief-resigns-after-putting-kkk-sign-on-black-officers-desk/ar-AALHZiN?li=BBnb7Kz) Racist piece of shit runs the department. Shows his true colors on the way out the door. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1904 "2021-07-02T19:57:15Z")
Nashville: > **[Ex-officer pleads guilty to manslaughter; family blasts deal](https://apnews.com/article/death-of-george-floyd-shootings-health-coronavirus-pandemic-d7e6338023da9633d5dd7f16a1061f9f)** > > NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — The mother of a Black man fatally shot by a white former Nashville officer sobbed, screamed and knocked over a courtroom lectern Friday as she begged a judge not to accept a plea deal she says was struck in secret without her... ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/1905 "2021-07-02T20:46:32Z")
Whatever happened to a DA being able to get a grand jury being able to indict a ham sandwich? > Georgia law does have an exception that allows police officers accused of crimes to testify before a grand jury. Oh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=94) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=96)