Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

This seems a bit odd for very liberal San Francisco:

They are considering a proposal from the police department. The police department claims that “use of force” by robots would only be a last resort to save police or civilian lives. The robots already exist for other duties (bomb disposal, etc.). The police have no particular plans for use of force by robots. It’s that last sentence that disturbs me – no plans, no safeguards, no accountability? Those are the critical factors.

Re: liberal San Francisco – considering our cost of living, we have a lot of entitled rich and newly-rich people here (minus some recently unemployed at Twitter) whose liberality stops short of allowing criminals to get away with any of their belongings.

“Gentlemen. It gives me great pleasure to introduce you to the future of law enforcement”

We all understand that these are, basically, RC cars with a gun bolted to them and not autonomous ‘Johnny 5 having a bad day’ murder bots, right?

But it is the first step…

…is this sarcasm, or were you just unaware of how bad the San Francisco police are?

Ahh, yes, steps! One might hope they are planning future murder bots with the ability to navigate typical human architecture . . . and not Daleks.

I know the terms are often conflated, but there’s a world of difference between a remote-controlled device and a robot. Remote-controlled weapons might be a bad idea, but for reasons unrelated to the possibility of armed robots.

How bad do you think they are, and based on what information?

…they had a clearance rate of 3% in reported thefts. An overall clearence rate of 8.1: the lowest in a decade. They were part of the campaign to get rid of the DA because of initiatives like this:

They stopped enforcing laws until they finally got him out of office.

They are an objectively bad police department that barely solves crime.

If you have robots or RC devices capable of tooling around and offing people, one of my biggest concerns would be: how secure is their lethal equipment? I mean, if they can simply roll over/cudgel the BGDJ (bad guys du jour), that is one thing, but if they have, like, guns, that shit is going to get lifted. Not might, will.

Wow. You’d think after the blowback from the Dan White case they’d have cleaned up their act. I guess now that they can’t go thump skulls in the Castro as their nightly entertainment, they just aren’t interested in doing the job.

Especially as there are so many non-lethals (e.g. tasers, gas, restraint devices) that a robot can use and there’s not much the criminal can do, unless they’re carrying a bazooka.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cop-killed-in-shootout-after-police-say-he-catfished-california-girl-killed-her-family/ar-AA14E6uS?cvid=240f3fb2640640099cd772a1eab7fb83

Officials said Edwards previously worked for the Virginia State Police as well as the Washington County Sheriff’s Office.

Much like the Golden State Killer, worked for 2 Law Enforcement agencies before murdering people.

“This is yet another horrific reminder of the predators existing online who prey on our children," Riverside Police Chief Larry Gonzalez said. "If you’ve already had a conversation with your kids on how to be safe online and on social media, have it again. If not, start it now to better protect them.”

And if they suspect something, call the po…uh…call someone.

Didn’t Baltimore get exposed for this shit? A van that wasn’t so much a transport but a way to brutalize someone, like in Death Proof?

Yes, I remember the Baltimore situation. They had done it repeatedly there, and I am guessing that it happens in other places as well. It is one of those things that the perpetrators need to, IMO, experience what they did to the victims first hand.

And the robotic use of deadly force has been approved.

Good guy with a gun only applies to white people.

This sort of reminds me of the Alec Baldwin Rust movie shooting: