Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

We did that in Milwaukee. @pkbites is the guy to ask about that.

Like a lot of other things it all depends on each agencies policies. Some departments have a pro-chase policy while others have a never chase or almost never chase. My current department had an almost never chase policy but then changed it to somewhat pro-chase policy when the occurrences of people taking off skyrocketed.

The choice to chase is still with the individual officer. I never do unless there is no high speed involved (Yes, people do run without speeding. It’s weird). I just don’t see the percentage.

During my first career as a Deputy Sheriff we didn’t screw around, we always chased and set up road blocks and rammed people right off the road. The 1980’s were the wild wild west.

I always think it’s more instructive to look at the murder rate per 100,000 population.

This puts Chicago at #10 in the country. Still not good but…

St. Louis, Baltimore and New Orleans are #1,2,3 on this list.

Has anyone examined various police departments for what I would call the “dog kill index”? That is, using the number of incidents in which residents’ dogs were killed by police as a benchmark for how readily police resort to violence?

This story is nuts.

The police chief is driving his police vehicle on his way to conduct police business. Two randos on the sidewalk draw on each other and start blasting. The chief floors it and flees, and while blowing through an intersection against the light he plows into another driver and seriously injures them. And all this gets spun around to somehow make the chief into a heroic figure?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/albuquerque-police-chief-recorded-saying-lets-appease-everyone-with-involved-crash-investigation/ar-BB1luggi

More on the above. This guy sounds like a dick.

There was the “puppycide” project. The projects homepage only shows up a server error.

Cue “Bravely Boldly Sir Robin”.

I’ve had this shirt for probably 10 years, I wear it regularly, but I think people have only noticed what it says a handful of times.

“Perhaps it will confuse him if we run away more!”

The practice of giving sedatives to people detained by police has spread quietly across the nation over the last 15 years, built on questionable science and backed by police-aligned experts, an investigation led by The Associated Press has found. Based on thousands of pages of law enforcement and medical records and videos of dozens of incidents, the investigation shows how a strategy intended to reduce violence and save lives has resulted in some avoidable deaths.

At least 94 people died after they were given sedatives and restrained by police from 2012 through 2021, according to findings by the AP in collaboration with FRONTLINE (PBS) and the Howard Centers for Investigative Journalism. That’s nearly 10% of the more than 1,000 deaths identified during the investigation of people subdued by police in ways that are not supposed to be fatal. About half of the 94 who died were Black, including Jackson.

The other paramedic got a more severe sentence.

Thanks to a mention from @Paul_was_in_Saudi in the Mass Killings thread:

A description of the technique

Some Youtube videos:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=PIT+maneuver

But given that the SUV was stolen and that two of the teenagers in the SUV were wearing ankle monitors and three had active warrants, surely everyone will agree that four dead teenagers was a small price to pay?

Not sure where to put this.

The Blue Wall of Silence appears to be alive and well in Chicago.

During the 2023 campaign for mayor, [Brandon] Johnson vowed to fire officers tied to far-right extremist groups. Johnson said Friday he stands by that promise but said officers can only be disciplined after an investigation that follows CPD rules.

A 2016 probe by the U.S. Department of Justice found that Chicago police officers were rarely held accountable for misconduct because of badly broken systems as well as a “code of silence” among officers that allowed them to act with impunity.

That investigation led to a federal court order, known as the consent decree, which requires the Chicago Police Department to change the way it trains, supervises and disciplines officers.

Five years after the consent decree took effect, CPD has fully met just 6% of the court order’s requirements, according to the most recent report by the team monitoring the city’s compliance.

It isn’t an encounter with civilians, per se, but surely this will cause more problems in NYC’s prisons. I hope she fully recovers, though.

Again, this article might not fit snugly into the idea of the thread, but I thought folks would like to read it:

Excellent idea, because the Assistant Chief of Police clearly didn’t know anything about the 264,000 cases ignored by the department over the last 8 years. And there’s no reason to fire any of the officers that tagged 8,000 sexual assault cases to be ignored.

They’re good apples, they just need a bit of re-training, like “you should maybe investigate crimes that happen”. That’s a fine point that anyone could lose sight of.