Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

Litchfield, Connecticut? Is the idea to punish them by boring them to death?

What? It’s better than Danbury.

No, Litchfield Illinois. It is down about forty or so miles from St. Louis, in the part of the state where you can go 80 miles and feel like you are still exactly where you were.

Belle Plain, Kansas:

IMO Mr. Womack had good reason to fear for his life (considering police actions in this country in just the past decade) and his fears were realized and proved well-founded judging by the incident captured on video.

Court records show he is also charged with several misdemeanor traffic citations, including failure to drive in the right lane on a four-lane highway, improper signal and driving without headlights.

Yeah, they won’t say why the cop called for backup for misdemeanor traffic violations before he had pulled the ex-cop over.

The ex-cop new what this was…an opportunity for a beat-down.

Here’s a new twist in the Daniel Prude case:

Also from the article
But moments later, the officer’s body camera turned off. CPD did not respond to questions about why the camera was turned off – a pattern CBS 2 found both during wrong raids and in CPD’s every day interactions with civilians.

In my fantasy world, an officer deliberately turning off his/her camera for any reason while on duty would be a firing offense.

You let them off light.

I would include criminal charges.

In the current world, I would ask “what is the point?”. They’d claim qualified immunity or the jury would let them. Losing their jobs is something that can actually happen, although that can be a long struggle sometimes also.

I was visiting @Euphonious_Polemic’s fantasy world.

How about any testimony they offer to the events while their bodycam is off is automatically inadmissable.

Every time a police officer fucks up that bad (or even comes close) they should be required to perform a thousand hours of uncompensated community service (in civvies, unarmed, in that neighborhood). Like, say, repairing smashed doors, just to start.

Qualified immunity is not a defense against criminal charges; it only applies in cases where police are facing a civil suit for violating people’s constitutional rights.

If a state legislature wrote a law making the deliberate deactivation of a body camera while on duty a criminal offense, police would not be able to invoke qualified immunity in response to the resulting criminal charges.

NYPD Report: NYPD, Mayor deBlasio fucked up in Summer 2020

The report does make some recommendations, including:

Some possible credit due:

Let’s see how this turns out when the next protests happen, but right now the reformer in me is somewhat pleased.

Another pleasing outcome, finally, that unfortunately doesn’t undo the years lost to Mr. Burrell:

From the link:

Really? If I was falsely convicted, that’s just about the last thing that I would do. They wouldn’t believe me, why would they? The courts have already convicted me.

He did do everything in his power to let them know he was innocent, he got the courts themselves to let him go, and that’s not enough for them. He claimed his innocence at his trial. And they wanted him to call them from jail and claim his innocence then?

I get that they are still grieving, even after all this time, and that it hurts, but they are not wanting justice, what they want is vengeance, and it doesn’t matter whether or not the target of their vengeance is deserving of it.

“Make amends”? For what exactly?

“Sorry I was locked up for a crime I did not commit, and the legal authorities have let the guilty person go”?

What exactly does he have to make amends for?

The person who said this is a fuckwit.

The person who said that may possibly be speaking from unbearable grief. It doesn’t make it more sensible, but perhaps one can set it aside as not necessarily characteristic of their abilities to reason. Also because the media tend to shine a light on the most stupid and outrageous utterances they can find, regardless of context.

Unbearable grief should not make someone lash out at an innocent man who has also suffered.

They are relatives of a victim, yes and deserve sympathy. They are also fuckwits.