# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 292
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5821 "2015-08-04T18:08:47Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > It just got better. The [cops are suing to suppress the video from the undamaged security camera](http://www.ocregister.com/articles/police-675722-officers-video.html) because > So, apparently, evidence that you’re an asshole shouldn’t be allowed if you didn’t consent to let people document that you’re an asshole. Mmm…so if I get pulled over, I can say that the cop’s dashboard video can’t be used against me because I didn’t consent to be videoed? Not sure that will fly. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5822 "2015-08-04T18:09:56Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > It just got better. The [cops are suing to suppress the video from the undamaged security camera](http://www.ocregister.com/articles/police-675722-officers-video.html) because > So, apparently, evidence that you’re an asshole shouldn’t be allowed if you didn’t consent to let people document that you’re an asshole. > [@](#): > > Officials with the Santa Ana Police Officers Association did not return phone calls seeking comment. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5823 "2015-08-04T18:20:12Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > It just got better. The [cops are suing to suppress the video from the undamaged security camera](http://www.ocregister.com/articles/police-675722-officers-video.html) because > So, apparently, evidence that you’re an asshole shouldn’t be allowed if you didn’t consent to let people document that you’re an asshole. Alright, now that’s just plain silly on the police department’s part. This appears to be a _legitimate_ abuse of police power, unlike so many trumped-up allegations and conspiracy theories we’ve seen here, and they’re grasping at straws to try and make it go away. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5824 "2015-08-04T18:25:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Alright, now that’s just plain silly on the police department’s part. This appears to be a _legitimate_ abuse of police power, unlike so many trumped-up allegations and conspiracy theories we’ve seen here, and they’re grasping at straws to try and make it go away. No Smapti, Noooo!! Amputees are a riot and cannabis edibles are yummmmmy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5825 "2015-08-04T18:28:30Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > No Smapti, Noooo!! Amputees are a riot and cannabis edibles are yummmmmy. Police officers should not be raiding illegal pot shops and then consuming the same illegal goods they came there to seize. That just makes them active participants in the same criminal market that it’s their job to shut down. I offer no opinion as to the risibility of amputees. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5826 "2015-08-04T18:33:43Z")
Here we have a State Trooper racially profiling a college professor who teaches, wait for it… about racism and its impact on American culture. She says he pulled her over based on race, didn’t tell why he stopped her and asked her if she could speak English (a racist question based on her dark skin). She wrote to head of the State Police and some law makers with her complaint. An investigation ensued, she gave a statement and acknowledged that making a false report was a crime. She was promptly arrested after giving the statement as dash cam video showed that the trooper acted professionally and none of her allegations were true. Kudos to the prosecutor who decided she should be charged and not shown the video before she gave her statement (as commonly happens just to make the complaint go away). I hope she gets some jail time. [http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/03/prof-who-accused-cop-profiling-flunks-dash-cam-test/?ref=yfp](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/03/prof-who-accused-cop-profiling-flunks-dash-cam-test/?ref=yfp) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5827 "2015-08-04T18:38:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Police officers should not be raiding illegal pot shops and then consuming the same illegal goods they came there to seize. That just makes them active participants in the same criminal market that it’s their job to shut down. > > I offer no opinion as to the risibility of amputees. Now, now. The only reason this is an issue is because Big Brother caught them on camera. I mean, how are these brave officers supposed to do their duty if they have to worry about being documented all the time. Come on, poor officers victimized by fascist pot sellers. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5828 "2015-08-04T18:40:14Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I mean, how are these brave officers supposed to do their duty if they have to worry about being documented all the time. Consuming illegal drugs and destroying seized evidence aren’t part of the police’s duty. Are you feeling well? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5829 "2015-08-04T18:47:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Police officers should not be raiding illegal pot shops and then consuming the same illegal goods they came there to seize. See, I think police who regularly consume cannabis would shoot fewer unarmed citizens! ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5830 "2015-08-04T19:16:34Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > See, I think police who regularly consume cannabis would shoot fewer unarmed citizens! Donut consumption would skyrocket too. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5831 "2015-08-04T19:41:30Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Donut consumption would skyrocket too. “… we have confiscated every donut, bagel, cruller and bear claw in the city. And some coffee.” ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5832 "2015-08-04T20:05:26Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > So, apparently, evidence that you’re an asshole shouldn’t be allowed if you didn’t consent to let people document that you’re an asshole. It illustrates exactly what a lot of people have a real problem with, regarding cops. > [@Smapti](#): > > Alright, now that’s just plain silly on the police department’s part. This appears to be a _legitimate_ abuse of police power, And people think you aren’t human. Anyone who watches the video can see clearly what the problem with cops is. Those who can't, they are actually the fascist morons of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5833 "2015-08-04T20:14:37Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Anyone who watches the video can see clearly what the problem with cops is. You confuse a problem with _these_ cops as being a problem with “cops” as an institution. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5834 "2015-08-04T20:24:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You confuse a problem with _these_ cops as being a problem with “cops” as an institution. You’d say that about each of the thousands of videos showing them being assholes. That cop that says she considered kicking the woman with one leg has nothing on the cop who stole a one-legged man’s prosthesis during the G-20 police riots in Toronto. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5835 "2015-08-04T20:45:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You confuse a problem with _these_ cops as being a problem with “cops” as an institution. Dude, “these” cops are representative of the entire force in that particular community. They are behaving in a relaxed way, comfortable with _breaking the law_ in front of their co-workers because they can. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5836 "2015-08-04T20:48:10Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > They are behaving in a relaxed way, comfortable with _breaking the law_ in front of their co-workers because they can. And now very upset that there is video of them doing it. What a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5837 "2015-08-04T21:52:32Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > And now very upset that there is video of them doing it. > > What a bitch. This is what happens when the watchmen are watched. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5838 "2015-08-04T21:59:22Z")
If I had a dime for every time some cop joked about kicking a wheelchair lady with one leg … ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5839 "2015-08-04T23:47:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Kenm > > Second video. The cop’s a sadist. > > Telling a child to stop crying and expecting them to behave themselves is “sadistic”? > > No wonder we’ve got a generation of kids who think following the law is optional - [they never had to experience any consequences for their actions before, so there’s no reason for them to expect to have to do so now](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard). > > This isn’t torture, this is _parenting_. If you really believe simply telling or hollering at a frightened child to shut up will actually make the child stop crying, I pray you are not now a parent and never become one until you realize just how wrong headed and foolish that is. If you are a parent of young children, please take a parenting class ASAP before you screw up your own kids. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/5840 "2015-08-05T14:00:55Z")
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