# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6061 "2015-08-23T01:34:50Z")

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[A group of white females rob an Asian ice-cream cart owner, while yelling racial slurs and videotaping the assault](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=659_1439692908)

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6062 "2015-08-23T01:38:50Z")

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[Another group of white females assaults and steals from a food cart owner](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d95_1440101466)

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6063 "2015-08-23T01:59:38Z")

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[A hate crime, pure and simple. A group of whites beats a black man into a bloody, unconscious pulp and then yells "“Yea, n_ **a, you just got knocked the f** _ out!”, while the blood pours out of the man’s wounds](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=371_1436226914)

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6064 "2015-08-23T02:02:00Z")

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[…Alkash having a controversial encounter with law enforcement.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6065 "2015-08-23T02:07:29Z")

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[A white robbery suspect assaults a black police officer](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d5b_1370147943)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6066 "2015-08-23T02:11:37Z")

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I don’t care about whatever point Alkash thinks he’s making, but he’s repeatedly posting links with misleading titles and that should be a warnable offense.  
Of course, when I do it, it’s funny. Hey, perverts, here’s [a picture of a dog getting blown.](https://sharendaroam.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dog-in-wind.jpg)

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6067 "2015-08-23T02:14:52Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I don’t care about whatever point Alkash thinks he’s making, but he’s repeatedly posting links with misleading titles and that should be a warnable offense.

reported for junior modding

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6068 "2015-08-23T03:24:47Z")

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> **[Maryland man dies after being shot by officer following struggle, police say](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/22/maryland-police-shooting-charles-s-hall)**
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> Trooper Darryl Brackett fired at Charles S Hall, wanted for theft, after he tried to drive away from scene, officers say

Police said the trooper, Daryl Brackett, knew Hall was wanted on a theft warrant. Brackett approached Hall and attempted to arrest him, police said, but Hall resisted and a struggle ensued.

Police said Hall got into his car during the struggle and attempted to drive away – and that Brackett fired at him. Hall was pronounced dead at the scene.

Since the articles do not mention race, I bet you Hall was white.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6069 "2015-08-23T04:06:00Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> reported for junior modding

Who do you think you are? [D’Anconia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=765541)?

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6070 "2015-08-23T04:38:47Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Since the articles do not mention race, I bet you Hall was white.

Don’t think there’ll be a lot of takers on that bet–it’s almost a mathematical certainty that Hall was exactly that–white.

In the meantime, [a group of three whites assaults, robs and terrorizes a black night-shift gas station clerk](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c46_1437690121)

The police description has a slight undertones of sarcastic “no shit” to it:

“Suspect #2 Is a white male,  
Suspect #3 Is a white male”

It’s a safe bet that a federal investigation will be launched into the police procedures, for daring to identify the criminals as “white”.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6071 "2015-08-23T04:45:39Z")

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I think by now we get the joke, Alkash.

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6072 "2015-08-23T04:49:27Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I think by now we get the joke, Alkash.

There’s no joke here. When daily multiple occurrences of blacks being murdered, raped, assaulted by whites are referred to as

> [@Smapti](#):
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> petty crime

there’s something very wrong with our society.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6073 "2015-08-23T04:56:03Z")

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Yeah, your society is pretty fucked up (as is mine to a lesser degree), but you’re not helping by misrepresentation.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6074 "2015-08-23T05:08:03Z")

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> [@Cyros](#):
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> Who do you think you are? [D’Anconia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=765541)?

it was a joke

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6075 "2015-08-23T10:17:42Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> it was a joke

Ditto

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6076 "2015-08-23T14:04:09Z")

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> [@Cyros](#):
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> Ditto

Yeah, and I actually got it, having read that thread. In fact, it was the reason I joked about it.

Meanwhile, [Baltimore police officer's bail set at $1m for allegedly shooting burglary suspect | Baltimore | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/20/baltimore-police-bail-shooting-burglary-suspect)

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6077 "2015-08-23T16:42:25Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yeah, your society is pretty fucked up (as is mine to a lesser degree), but you’re not helping by misrepresentation.

So, what would accurate representation be? I mean, we all know that once you get a population above a particular size, you can cherry-pick examples of bad behaviors, and list them out in litany form to prove that those Group-Members are all terrible people, just look at these dozen examples (in a sample size of millions).

So, can we get the accurate representation, then? Would someone like to post the current actual data on violent interracial criminal encounters, so we can stem the misprepresentative tide of links and replace it with the actual data?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6078 "2015-08-23T18:09:05Z")

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[Moderating]  
**Alkash** , this is a formal warning for trolling the Straight Dope. You will stop link spamming the “Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians” thread immediately, and going forward, you will not post deliberately deceptive descriptions of a link’s contents in any forum. If you want to participate in the boards, put forward a position and argue for or against it, without misrepresenting yourself or any links you use to demonstrate your arguments. Failure to do this will result in a removal of your ability to post at the SDMB.  
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6079 "2015-08-23T18:10:58Z")

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> [@Alkash](#):
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> Only a cock-munching, jizz-guzzling and vomit-inducing parody of a clusterfucking dickwad such as yourself would ever imply that the endless litany of white-on-black murder and rape (presented by yours truly in all of its cold-blooded factuality) can be classified as

[Moderating]  
**Alkash** , while insults are permitted in the Pit, sexually graphic insults are not. Please refer to the [Restricted Language Rules in the Pit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) sticky at the top of the forum for a list of what words and phrases are not allowed.

No warning issued.  
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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6080 "2015-08-23T19:08:50Z")

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> [@robertliguori](#):
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> SWould someone like to post the current actual data on violent interracial criminal encounters, so we can stem the misprepresentative tide of links and replace it with the actual data?

That would be off topic as well.

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