# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6201 "2015-09-10T23:06:25Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> [No charges for the police who killed the rock-throwing man in Pasco, WA](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-charges-pasco-police-officers-who-killed-antonio-zambrano-montes-n424571).

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> “I think if anyone of you had a 5-pound rock thrown at you, I think most people would determine that that rock is a deadly weapon in how that was used in that case,” Sant said.

Sure would! Especially since the guy would have arms as big as the incredible hulk to pitch it more than a couple of feet.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6202 "2015-09-10T23:49:12Z")

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And on the other side, once again, man attacks parents and deputies with an ax, is NOT killed for it.

> **[Montana man accused of attacking parents, deputy with hatchet](https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-man-accused-of-attacking-parents-deputy-with-hatchet/article_e1c576a8-70df-5763-b696-e34fa63018f7.html)**
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> HAMILTON — A Corvallis man accused of attacking his parents and a Ravalli County sheriff’s deputy with a hatchet is facing several felonies related to the incident, along with two

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6203 "2015-09-11T00:23:32Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> And on the other side, once again, man attacks parents and deputies with an ax, is NOT killed for it.

And a deputy was actually hit and injured by the thrown hatchet.

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> “Cpl. (Jake) Auch was advancing down the hallway when he saw defendant step partially into the hallway and in one motion defendant raised the hatchet above his head and threw the hatched past Cpl. Auch down the hallway,” the affidavit stated. “The hatchet hit Deputy (Mike) Sunderland in the right pointer finger, causing a gash and bleeding to Deputy Sunderland’s hand.”
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> Read more: [Montana man accused of attacking parents, deputy with hatchet](http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-man-accused-of-attacking-parents-deputy-with-hatchet/article_e1c576a8-70df-5763-b696-e34fa63018f7.html#ixzz3lNvoPjnL)

Must have been a white boy.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6204 "2015-09-11T00:42:00Z")

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[Here’s a website](http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/07/arizona-cop-forces-himself-into-home-of-towel-wrapped-woman-and-arrests-her-for-recording-leaving-her-naked-and-handcuffed-in-her-kitchen/) with many examples of inappropriate behavior by cops, etc.

The link points to an incident where a woman is handcuffed naked for the “crime” of complaining that the cops entered her home illegally. At least the offending cop in this case was “disciplined” – forced to reture with full pension.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6205 "2015-09-11T00:48:40Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Sure would! Especially since the guy would have arms as big as the incredible hulk to pitch it more than a couple of feet.

Now, to be perfectly fair … on the track team in high school I was hucking a 16 pound ball of metal well over 30 feet and that was considered pretty mediocre.

Not justifyin’ … just sayin’ …

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6206 "2015-09-11T01:06:00Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> The link points to an incident where a woman is handcuffed naked for the “crime” of complaining that the cops entered her home illegally. At least the offending cop in this case was “disciplined” – forced to reture with full pension.

Dear America,

Seriously, your cops are fucked up. They treat you guys with the sort of contempt that is normally associated with with a deeply troubled, 3rd world nation.

Best of luck sorting this shit out,

Yours etc, etc

GK

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6207 "2015-09-11T22:58:22Z")

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[NYPD has released video](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nypd-james-blake-video_55f3330de4b063ecbfa45626) of the officer attacking James Blake and throwing him to the ground.

Police Commish Bratton says the officer “might” have acted too aggressively. _REALLY?_ Bratton’s a dick too.

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6208 "2015-09-12T00:06:43Z")

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An Oregon cop fears for his and his family’s lives after revealing that the police chief danced like a monkey and sang Dixie After a black woman made a discrimination complaint.

> **[Oregon cop who turned in racist police chief for dancing like monkey after...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2015/09/09/oregon-cop-who-turned-in-racist-police-chief-for-dancing-like-monkey-after-black-womans-complaint-gets-death-threats/)**
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> One of the Oregon cops who squealed on his chief for making racist remarks and dancing like a monkey after a black woman’s discrimination complaint now fears for his life. Police Officer Dust…

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> The 56-year-old chief Martin Hoover resigned after Stone and Officer Zack Gibson alerted authorities to an incident in which Hoover pounded on his chest like Tarzan and danced around the room as he howled like a chimp to mock a black suspect.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6209 "2015-09-12T00:44:40Z")

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On a sunny afternoon this past February, some Alabama officers stopped Sureshbhai Patel for walking darkly in a nice neighbor. Patel had almost no English, so there was difficulty communicating. Difficulty communicating makes the police upset, so

[dashcam](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_SSGa7-6BQ)

Mr. Patel was left paralyzed from the incident.

Progress: [a jury failed to find officer judo not guilty](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/11/439596754/mistrial-declared-in-case-of-alabama-officer-who-badly-injured-indian-man). The prosecutor intends to pursue a retrial.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6210 "2015-09-12T01:29:59Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Mr. Patel was left paralyzed from the incident.
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> Progress: [a jury failed to find officer judo not guilty](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/11/439596754/mistrial-declared-in-case-of-alabama-officer-who-badly-injured-indian-man). The prosecutor intends to pursue a retrial.

Apparently the FBI is prosecuting the fucktard in Federal court. Is that because he’s a foreign national, or just the assumption that prosecutors in the reddest racistest stupidest state in Dixie wouldn’t go after good ol’ bubba boy?

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**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6211 "2015-09-12T04:13:55Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> An Oregon cop fears for his and his family’s lives after revealing that the police chief danced like a monkey and sang Dixie After a black woman made a discrimination complaint.
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> [Oregon cop who turned in racist police chief for dancing like monkey after black woman’s complaint gets death threats – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oregon-turned-racist-police-chief-fears-life-article-1.2353552)

Why would he fear for his life? It’s not like people are hunting down and assassinating cops or anything. The hysterical idiots on the left are for tolerance and equality, after all, and they’d never be irrationally violent every second of the day, like the hateful bigots they so clearly are.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6212 "2015-09-12T04:30:51Z")

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> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Why would he fear for his life? It’s not like people are hunting down and assassinating cops or anything. The hysterical idiots on the left are for tolerance and equality, after all, and they’d never be irrationally violent every second of the day, like the hateful bigots they so clearly are.

Do you think it’s liberals who are upset at him for turning in a racist cop?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6213 "2015-09-12T05:10:20Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Do you think it’s liberals who are upset at him for turning in a racist cop?

> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> The hysterical **idiots on the left** are for tolerance and equality, after all, and they’d never be irrationally violent every second of the day, **like the hateful bigots they so clearly are.**

It seems clear our mouth-breathing friend thinks liberals are bigots based on the parts I bolded in the quote above, so the answer to your question **Fubaya** appears to be YES!

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6214 "2015-09-12T05:30:03Z")

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Yeah. He’s in the Kim Davis thread too. At least here the liberals are just hateful bigots. Over there, the liberals are frothing over-emotional hyenas. Kind of describes his attitude toward liberals though, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6215 "2015-09-12T13:03:16Z")

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> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Why would he fear for his life? **It’s not like people are hunting down and assassinating cops or anything.** The hysterical idiots on the left are for tolerance and equality, after all, and they’d never be irrationally violent every second of the day, like the hateful bigots they so clearly are.

Bolding mine.

Sounds like someone’s been drinking the Fox News Koolaide. Try this instead.

[There is no “war on cops.” 2015 is on pace to be the second safest year for cops in a CENTURY](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/09/10/once-again-there-is-no-war-on-cops-and-those-who-claim-otherwise-are-playing-a-dangerous-game/?tid=sm_fb)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6216 "2015-09-12T14:05:55Z")

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> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> Why would he fear for his life? It’s not like people are hunting down and assassinating cops or anything. The hysterical idiots on the left are for tolerance and equality, after all, and they’d never be irrationally violent every second of the day, like the hateful bigots they so clearly are.

Like people keep telling you, today is the safest era for any police officer to live in. Far fewer police are being killed than in any previous year and it’s trending downward.

Which makes your statement ignorant, (falsely) alarmist, flat out wrong and inflammatory.

The police and the people like you are only upset that we as a society are waking up to the unjust and unwarranted levels of violence coming from our law enforcement agencies and are demanding this be changed. “We can’t do our jobs!” is flat out bullshit, and if you as a police officer think this is the case, then you completely misunderstand the point of your job and how to do it.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6217 "2015-09-12T14:48:10Z")

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“Irrationally violent every second of the day”? Liberals hunting down and killing cops for being anti-racist? Does he realise he’s insane?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6218 "2015-09-12T15:51:46Z")

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This board has a nice feature for dealing with the likes of him. Sadly, people keep quoting him in their posts, which defeats the purpose.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6219 "2015-09-12T17:43:55Z")

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[Mother rejects payout, refuses to stay silent in lawsuit against cops who killed her son](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mother-rejects-payout-refusing-to-stay-silent-in-lawsuit-against-cops-who-killed-her-son/ar-AAecbwL?li=AAa0dzB)

For those who don’t want to click, her son was cosplaying at a mall–dressed as a anime character with a metal sword. It had a rounded end, but that didn’t stop people from calling the police. The police swear up and down that he lunged at them and that’s why they had to shoot him. And yet an autopsy later found that six bullets entered through his back–including the fatal shot. [Video shows the fuckers shot him while he was running away from them](http://fox13now.com/2014/11/06/new-footage-from-fatal-shooting-of-darrien-hunt-released-family-attorney-responds/).

This mother has my deepest admiration. It would be easy to take the money and try to move on, but she instead she has chosen to take a stand against this injustice.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/6220 "2015-09-12T18:26:13Z")

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Fucking cops shooting people in the back.

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