# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 365
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7281 "2015-12-03T02:53:11Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > and other fiends became PG Co. cops. Must be subliminal: should be _friends_. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7282 "2015-12-03T03:24:41Z")
We don’t know what the BK video might show because it’s gone. We have an exceedingly brief moment of dashcam footage - we do NOT have 86 minutes of fixed camera footage that might show a much more complete picture of that night. ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7283 "2015-12-03T03:32:32Z")
So **Smapti** , what’s your take on [this](http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/)? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7284 "2015-12-03T03:52:43Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > So **Smapti** , what’s your take on [this](http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/)? Yeah, but that’s the only place it ever happened. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7285 "2015-12-03T04:02:16Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Yeah, but that’s the only place it ever happened. **Smapti’s** take: outlier. As noted above. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7286 "2015-12-03T06:11:44Z")
[Lack of sound in police videos raises more questions about officer conduct, possible cover-up](http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/12/02/lack-of-sound-in-chicago-police-videos-raises-more-questions) 5 cars that by policy should have been recording audio weren’t. Smapti, “Just coincidence. Nothing suspicious at all.” ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7287 "2015-12-03T06:20:06Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > **Smapti’s** take: outlier. As noted above. Or “I believe the police chief’s denials. Prove he’s lying.” ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7288 "2015-12-03T11:44:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The past is not now. Dude, the past _made_ now. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7289 "2015-12-03T12:17:33Z")
I think it’s very possible **Smapti** is forced to defend law enforcement and authority in general, in all but the most extreme cases (and even some of those), because his psyche literally cannot handle the possibility of living in a world in which police and authority were not mostly trustworthy and forces for good. It’s sad. For him, I think it may be ‘defend the police _always_ or suffer a major breakdown’. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7290 "2015-12-04T00:11:11Z")
In Chicago the Fraternal Order Of Police Union really, really, really wants police misconduct records older than 5 years to be destroyed lest someone sees them. [http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/1149585/lawsuit-seeks-stop-police-discipline-files-destroyed](http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/1149585/lawsuit-seeks-stop-police-discipline-files-destroyed) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7291 "2015-12-04T00:47:21Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > So **Smapti** , what’s your take on [this](http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/)? JesusFreakingChrist that is sickening. A dozen officers, a police chief, the Internal Affairs department, the District Fucking Attorney and the Asst. Director of Homeland Fucking Security for the State of Alabama, all engaged in a criminal conspiracy to wrongfully imprison hundreds of black men over a decade. I would really like it if this were proved to be a BS piece. I would feel better about humanity as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7292 "2015-12-04T02:32:13Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I would really like it if this were proved to be a BS piece. I would feel better about humanity as a whole. You think that situation is unique? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7293 "2015-12-04T05:53:02Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I would really like it if this were proved to be a BS piece. Unfortunately, [it may prove so](http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2015/12/splc_deletes_tweet_promoting_a.html). > [@](#): > > In a statement to [AL.com](http://AL.com), the SPLC said: "SPLC is not associated with the Henry County Report, and we have no information to substantiate or disprove the report’s claims about the Dothan Police Department. “We received new information from people we trust around Alabama that we should be highly suspect of the reporting and then made the decision that we didn’t want to keep the story out there under our account. We never saw or claimed to have seen any link to a hate group in the story.” ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7294 "2015-12-04T11:49:12Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > In Chicago the Fraternal Order Of Police Union really, really, really wants police misconduct records older than 5 years to be destroyed lest someone sees them. > > [http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/1149585/lawsuit-seeks-stop-police-discipline-files-destroyed](http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/1149585/lawsuit-seeks-stop-police-discipline-files-destroyed) IN other news, the union has added further demands dealing specifically with pancakes and blowjobs. Stay tuned as this story develops. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7295 "2015-12-04T12:08:05Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Unfortunately, [it may prove so](http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2015/12/splc_deletes_tweet_promoting_a.html). It’s “unfortunate” that the police department _wasn’t_ taken over by white supremacists? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7296 "2015-12-04T12:30:46Z")
Don’t be stupid. It is unfortunate when people lie about important things. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7297 "2015-12-05T02:59:17Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Don’t be stupid. It is unfortunate when people lie about important things. But not cops, because they would never lie–especially about a controversial situation, right? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7298 "2015-12-07T02:19:52Z")
[Justice Department will investigate practices of Chicago police](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/12/06/justice-department-will-launch-investigation-into-practices-of-chicago-police/) Law enforcement officers investigating law enforcement officers. Poor Smapti. His head may explode. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7299 "2015-12-07T17:53:50Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Law enforcement officers investigating law enforcement officers. > > Poor Smapti. His head may explode. This is just another politically-motivated witch hunt designed to pander to the mob. Not really any different than when Republicans create these kind of fauxtroversies around Hillary Clinton and Planned Parenthood. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/7300 "2015-12-07T17:56:10Z")
Investigating a department known for civil rights abuses and running it’s own Black Site is a “Witch Hunt”? Ok, that’s officially the stupidest thing you’ve ever said, and that’s a high mark to hit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=364) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=366)