# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8042 "2016-03-02T23:29:53Z")

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[The officer who arrested Sandra Bland has officially been fired](http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/DPS-director-affirms-firing-of-trooper-in-Sandra-6866121.php), but he may still have a chance to appeal his dismissal to the DPS oversight board. The outcome of his criminal trial could affect the viability of an appeal, though.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8043 "2016-03-04T17:16:48Z")

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[Lancaster police sergeant charged with perjury, simple assault](http://www.wfmz.com/news/lancaster-police-sergeant-charged-with-perjury-simple-assault/38299584)

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> During the man’s summary trial in July, Corll testified under oath that the man was clearly intoxicated, saying he was staggering the entire width of a 15-foot-wide sidewalk and was unaware of his surroundings.
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> Video footage from the case, however, showed the man was walking normally and showing no signs of staggering

Don’t you know there’s a subset of police officers (and Smapti) who absolutely despise video cameras?

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8044 "2016-03-04T19:51:24Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> [Lancaster police sergeant charged with perjury, simple assault](http://www.wfmz.com/news/lancaster-police-sergeant-charged-with-perjury-simple-assault/38299584)  
> Don’t you know there’s a subset of police officers (and Smapti) who absolutely despise video cameras?

Just wanted to share this link I found on the page when reading your link:

[Loaded gun found in woman’s private parts](http://www.wfmz.com/news/Loaded-gun-found-in-woman-s-private-parts/19218858#at_pco=smlre-1.0&at_si=56d9e6a5705ebf8f&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=4)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8045 "2016-03-04T20:32:27Z")

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> [@Sinaptics](#):
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> Just wanted to share this link I found on the page when reading your link:
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> [Loaded gun found in woman’s private parts](http://www.wfmz.com/news/Loaded-gun-found-in-woman-s-private-parts/19218858#at_pco=smlre-1.0&at_si=56d9e6a5705ebf8f&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=4)

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> An Oklahoma woman is accused of hiding a loaded gun in her vagina and methamphetamine in her buttocks

And scarves. The officer pulled scarf after scarf from the woman’s vagina.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8046 "2016-03-04T20:38:16Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> And scarves. The officer pulled scarf after scarf from the woman’s vagina.

That was NOT a scarf. It was an endless ammo bandoleer for the gun.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8047 "2016-03-04T20:55:52Z")

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Michelle Duggar could cache an arsenal.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8048 "2016-03-04T21:12:42Z")

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That sort of thing could lead to a pretty serious vaginal discharge. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8049 "2016-03-04T21:39:23Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> That sort of thing could lead to a pretty serious vaginal discharge. Just sayin’.

Winner.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8050 "2016-03-04T23:32:02Z")

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There’s a ‘quick draw’ joke in there somewhere…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8051 "2016-03-05T00:38:19Z")

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> **[New York man's award for wrongful rape conviction cut to $12 million](https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-mans-award-wrongful-rape-conviction-cut-12-211004563--finance.html)**
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> A federal judge on Friday reduced to $12 million from $18 million the maximum that New York City must pay a man who spent more than two decades in prison before being cleared of a rape he did not commit. U.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin in...

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> A federal judge on Friday reduced to $12 million from $18 million the maximum that New York City must pay a man who spent more than two decades in prison before being cleared of a rape he did not commit.

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> He later pressed the city to find the victim’s rape kit, which was not offered at trial, after DNA testing had become more reliable, but the city took more than a decade before locating it in a Queens warehouse.
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> After DNA taken from the victim did not match, Newton was released from prison in July 2006.

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> “Wrongful convictions are a serious and intolerable aspect of the criminal justice system,” Scheindlin wrote in a 46-page decision. “However, in this instance, the principles of justice require a reduction of the damages that were awarded.”

The principle is that there is no justice.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8052 "2016-03-08T18:17:31Z")

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Update in the Freddie Gray case:

[New Ruling: Ofc. Porter Must Testify Against 5 Officers In Gray Case](http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/03/08/new-ruling-ofc-porter-must-testify-against-officer-in-gray-case/)

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> BALTIMORE (WJZ)– Maryland’s highest court has ruled that Baltimore City police officer William Porter must testify in the trials of five fellow officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray.
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> Investigator Mike Hellgren breaks down the court’s ruling and what it means.
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> In a huge blow for his defense, Maryland’s highest court ruled Officer William Porter must testify against all five of his co-defendants and that the remaining trials in the death of Freddie Gray can proceed.
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> “This is a unique situation and it’s not like any other situation that we’ve seen,” said one of the judges.

I wonder how many times Officer Porter will say “I can’t recall.” in response to prosecutor questions.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8053 "2016-03-08T19:39:24Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [New York man's award for wrongful rape conviction cut to $12 million](http://news.yahoo.com/york-mans-award-wrongful-rape-conviction-cut-12-211004563--finance.html)
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> The principle is that there is no justice.

At least he got compensation. That [guy who was released after 30](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/inmate-death-row-30-years-released-prison-article-1.1719277) years on death row, who died of lung cancer a year later, received $20 for a bus ride. [Judges ruled that he was not adequately innocent](http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/06/exonerated_convict_glenn_ford.html) enough to receive compensation. It is not clear whether he was actually convicted of those other things.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8054 "2016-03-10T20:47:00Z")

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While this is no where near as appalling as previous posts in this thread, I found it to be …puzzling. A black protester is being escorted out of a Trump rally by the police, and gets sucker punched. The police tackle the victim down and handcuff him. The guy who threw the punch is later arrested.

The police were _right there_ when the man got punched. Why the handcuffs and wrestling down of the victim? Why not arrest the puncher immediately?

> **[Video of Black Man Sucker-Punched Is Latest in Violent Acts at Trump Rallies](https://www.mic.com/articles/137556/video-of-black-man-sucker-punched-at-trump-rally-is-latest-in-violent-acts)**
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> More than any other presidential candidate in the 2016 race, Republican frontrunner Donald Trump's campaign rallies have been marked by a tendency for heated encounters to devolve into violence. 
> The latest — and perhaps most appalling —...

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8055 "2016-03-10T21:06:26Z")

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To keep him from immediately retaliating? If they first go after the puncher then the protester may have had a chance to run.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8056 "2016-03-10T21:44:00Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> To keep him from immediately retaliating? If they first go after the puncher then the protester may have had a chance to run.

The protester was not being arrested. If he wants to run, let him. Instead of handcuffing the victim, maybe one of the several cops could have arrested the guy that had actually committed a crime while they were right there, instead of waiting until the next day to arrest him?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8057 "2016-03-10T21:46:00Z")

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Oh no, a protester might have taken it on the lam. Better treat him like more of a criminal than the guy who punched him in the face. Can’t have protesters out there protesting and shit.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8058 "2016-03-10T22:20:13Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> While this is no where near as appalling as previous posts in this thread, I found it to be …puzzling. A black protester is being escorted out of a Trump rally by the police, and gets sucker punched. The police tackle the victim down and handcuff him. The guy who threw the punch is later arrested.
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> The police were _right there_ when the man got punched. Why the handcuffs and wrestling down of the victim? Why not arrest the puncher immediately?
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> [Video of Black Man Sucker-Punched Is Latest in Violent Acts at Trump Rallies](http://mic.com/articles/137556/video-of-black-man-sucker-punched-at-trump-rally-is-latest-in-violent-acts#.H6GhrdLLT)

[According](http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/03/10/punch-of-trump-protester-in-north-carolina-sparks-police-probe/) to a sergeant from the Sheriff’s Office:

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> Sgt. Sean Swain of the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office said the officers at the scene didn’t see the assault because at the time they were looking down at the stairs. He also said the full sequence of events is unclear from the videos that have been posted online.

They missed the assault on the guy they were escorting out of the building? Yeah, that’s a good one.

The Sheriff himself, at least, seems to be taking the whole thing seriously:

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> “No one should be subjected to such a cowardly, unprovoked act as that committed by McGraw. Regardless of political affiliation, speech, race, national origin, color, gender, bad reputation, prior acts, or political demonstration, no other citizen has the right to assault another person or to act in such a way as this defendant did.”

The police have also apparently started an internal investigation into the handling of the incident by the deputies. If i were the victim, i’d be starting a civil suit against the assailant as well.

> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> To keep him from immediately retaliating? If they first go after the puncher then the protester may have had a chance to run.

LOL. I have probably seen posts that manage to cram more stupid analysis into fewer words than this, but i can’t think of one right now.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8059 "2016-03-10T22:35:16Z")

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The black protester was assaulted by police because his face attacked a white Trump supporter.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8060 "2016-03-14T19:50:08Z")

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Sean Groubert, the SC cop who shot an unarmed black motorist after he reached into his car to follow instructions to provide ID, [plead guilty in his trial](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-south-carolina-trooper-pleads-guilty-in-shooting-of-unarmed-black-man-levar-jones/).

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/8061 "2016-03-15T23:23:57Z")

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[Fort Worth police officer maces motorcyclists passing by on the highway](http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/tarrant-county/fwpd-investigating-video-showing-officer-allegedly-spraying-bikers/82200692)

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