# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 544
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10862 "2017-07-12T18:55:32Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ve decided that I’m the voice of the NRA, and as the voice of the NRA, I’ve decided that the rights of black people are inferior. I’ve also convinced a handful of my fellows to go to an NRA event and chant that Democratic politicians should be killed, and we record this on video (before being chased away by other protesters). We’ll probably also mess up some shit on our way out. We’re going to do this a few times because we’re the voice of the NRA and that’s what the NRA does. There will be lots of pretty videos. > > I’m sure this will be enough for folks like **Damuri Ajashi** to decide that the NRA isn’t worth supporting any more. But of course, what one person, or even a small group of people does isn’t a reflection of the views and objectives of the NRA itself, especially if you are going against what the leadership is saying and asking you to do. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10863 "2017-07-12T19:03:45Z")
Wow, [this](https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/885131711947964416) is nice. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10864 "2017-07-12T19:10:26Z")
Sorry I didn’t post any detail. The link is to a video on twitter showing the police siccing their dog on a criminal on his knees with his hands on his head. The praise the dog and cuff the criminal who is writhing on the ground while shouting “stop resisting”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10865 "2017-07-12T19:11:45Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Wow, [this](https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/885131711947964416) is nice. Jesus. For anyone who can’t see it, it’s a video of law enforcement siccing a dog on a passive, kneeling suspect. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10866 "2017-07-12T19:14:42Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Sorry I didn’t post any detail. The link is to a video on twitter showing the police siccing their dog on a criminal on his knees with his hands on his head. The praise the dog and cuff the criminal who is writhing on the ground while shouting “stop resisting”. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Jesus. For anyone who can’t see it, it’s a video of law enforcement siccing a dog on a passive, kneeling suspect. Oh, was that what that was? I thought it was a scene cut out from “Underground.” ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10867 "2017-07-12T21:58:19Z")
Just another day in Bakersfield, California. Black person punched by an officer and bitten by police dog, then arrested, in a case of mistaken identity. The suspect that the police were seeking was a black male, about 25-30 years old, between 5’10" and 6’ tall and weighing between 160 and 180 pounds. The person they stopped, punched, and arrested is a black woman, 19 years old, who stands 5’2" and weighs 115 pounds. I have uploaded the [police report](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B47mhYKzyMjNRVJPZjFiZlZ3NDQ/view?usp=sharing) from this incident, and you can see the various descriptions of the actual suspect given in three different cases. Description 1: > [@](#): > > BMA, 30 years old, 5’10, 160 lbs., shaved head, goatee, wearing a baggy white T-shirt, and grey pants, transient in appearance. > > p. 5 of 19 Description 2: > [@](#): > > BM, 30’s, 5’11", 165 lbs., > Wearing a White t-shirt, dark jeans, > Black running shoes, holding a pink duffle bag, > And a black backpack > > p. 6 of 19 Description 3: > [@](#): > > BMA, 25-28 years, 6’0, 170, bald > Wearing a white t-shirt, blue jeans > Carrying a pink or red duffle bag and black backpack > > p. 7 of 19 The arrest of this guy is detailed on pp. 10-12 of the police report. On page 13 the account of the woman’s arrest begins. If you go to [this news story](http://www.bakersfield.com/news/black-teenage-girl-mistaken-for-machete-wielding-black-man-alleges/article_0ae15203-8291-5774-887b-95df9acfb2a8.html), you can see a picture of the woman. She’s being charged with aggravated assault and resisting arrest, which seems to be the go-to charge these days when the cops realize that they stopped the wrong black person. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10868 "2017-07-12T22:25:31Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Just another day in Bakersfield, California. > > Black person punched by an officer and bitten by police dog, then arrested, in a case of mistaken identity. > > The suspect that the police were seeking was a black male, about 25-30 years old, between 5’10" and 6’ tall and weighing between 160 and 180 pounds. > > The person they stopped, punched, and arrested is a black woman, 19 years old, who stands 5’2" and weighs 115 pounds. > > I have uploaded the [police report](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B47mhYKzyMjNRVJPZjFiZlZ3NDQ/view?usp=sharing) from this incident, and you can see the various descriptions of the actual suspect given in three different cases. > > Description 1: > Description 2: > Description 3:The arrest of this guy is detailed on pp. 10-12 of the police report. On page 13 the account of the woman’s arrest begins. > > If you go to [this news story](http://www.bakersfield.com/news/black-teenage-girl-mistaken-for-machete-wielding-black-man-alleges/article_0ae15203-8291-5774-887b-95df9acfb2a8.html), you can see a picture of the woman. She’s being charged with aggravated assault and resisting arrest, which seems to be the go-to charge these days when the cops realize that they stopped the wrong black person. Correction: They don’t charge you with that unless you got uppity when you were stopped. There is quite a gray scale to uppity. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10869 "2017-07-13T05:35:45Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > What do we want? Dead Cops!!! When do we want it? Now!!! > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8) Plenty of video of BLM marches with people chanting some pretty inciteful stuff but this is probably the most explicit. > > “Dear white people if Trump wins young niggas such as myself are hell bent on inciting riots everywhere we go. Just so you know.” -deleted tweet of Tef Poe “the voice of BLM” > > [http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/us/michael-brown-stepfather-video/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/us/michael-brown-stepfather-video/index.html) - > Michael Brown’s father saying “burn this bitch down” when the police officer was acquitted. So we have an aggrieved father denied justice, a rapper associated with the movement, and a section of a single march. I think you’re [weak-manning the movement](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/12/weak-men-are-superweapons/) a bit here. Also, wanna talk incitement? > [@](#): > > You have yet to say what the NRA did besides remain silent about the shooting of a black man. Neither of my above two critiques apply to [this video](http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/06/29/25258270/this-new-nra-ad-is-not-at-all-unhinged-and-is-so-totally-not-an-incite-to-violence), which was put out by and endorsed by the NRA leadership, and is a fairly clear incitement to violence. > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > From that story: > If that isn’t the perfect example of why police training needs to be revamped. Every interaction like this, we should be thinking: “What if that wasn’t a cop? How would that go? Would I have been justified in shooting that person in self-defense or defense of my family?” Then we should be asking ourselves why we’re holding the police to such an absurdly low standard. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10870 "2017-07-13T06:26:58Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Neither of my above two critiques apply to [this video](http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/06/29/25258270/this-new-nra-ad-is-not-at-all-unhinged-and-is-so-totally-not-an-incite-to-violence), which was put out by and endorsed by the NRA leadership, and is a fairly clear incitement to violence. Note: above one argument. There was supposed to be a second, but I figure one Rationalist article about cognitive mistakes is enough and decided to drop bringing up the [non-central fallacy, AKA the worst argument in the world](http://lesswrong.com/lw/e95/the_noncentral_fallacy_the_worst_argument_in_the/). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10871 "2017-07-13T10:31:13Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Correction: They don’t charge you with that unless you got uppity when you were stopped. There is quite a gray scale to uppity. If a cop kills a white guy who is in black face, does the cop get acquitted? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10872 "2017-07-13T13:14:54Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ve decided that I’m the voice of the NRA, and as the voice of the NRA, I’ve decided that the rights of black people are inferior. I’ve also convinced a handful of my fellows to go to an NRA event and chant that Democratic politicians should be killed, and we record this on video (before being chased away by other protesters). We’ll probably also mess up some shit on our way out. We’re going to do this a few times because we’re the voice of the NRA and that’s what the NRA does. There will be lots of pretty videos. > > I’m sure this will be enough for folks like **Damuri Ajashi** to decide that the NRA isn’t worth supporting any more. Is Tef Poe a false flag operator? Are you saying that the marchers chanting “what do we want, dead cops, when do we want it, now!” are agents provocateur? Was Michael Brown’s step father really just trying to undermine the movement when he said “burn this bitch down?” By your logic, I might be able to call Ted Nugent an agent provocateur that was installed by anti-gun activists to make the gun rights movement seem nucking futz? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10873 "2017-07-13T13:25:29Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Is Tef Poe a false flag operator? No idea. Random dude could be motivated by anything. Random dude’s statements, no matter what the claims of the random dude about whose voice he is, don’t say anything about the views of a big and decentralized movement, especially when the official statements of that movement have all directly contradicted any violent nonsense spewed by random dudes. > [@](#): > > Are you saying that the marchers chanting “what do we want, dead cops, when do we want it, now!” are agents provocateur? No idea. They’re random people. Random people could be motivated by anything. They certainly don’t represent the views of a big and decentralized movement, especially when the official statements of that movement have all directly contradicted any violent nonsense spewed by random people. > [@](#): > > Was Michael Brown’s step father really just trying to undermine the movement when he said “burn this bitch down?” Assuming he actually said this in the context you’re asserting, I doubt it. I imagine he was a grieving father momentarily overcome by anger. Grieving family members momentarily overcome by anger don’t represent the views of a big and decentralized movement, especially when the official statements of that movement have all directly contradicted any violent statements from grieving family members momentarily overcome by anger. > [@](#): > > By your logic, I might be able to call Ted Nugent an agent provocateur that was installed by anti-gun activists to make the gun rights movement seem nucking futz? None of my criticisms about the NRA have been about that asshole. Sigh. There’s probably no point in bothering continuing this, but I sometimes can’t help myself. Hopefully some day you won’t be so irrationally prejudiced against beaten-down and victimized people when, very occasionally, small groups of them react with human emotion that sometimes goes too far (something that has occurred multiple times with literally every single instance of oppression in human history). ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10874 "2017-07-13T13:26:07Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Just another day in Bakersfield, California. > > Black person punched by an officer and bitten by police dog, then arrested, in a case of mistaken identity. > > The suspect that the police were seeking was a black male, about 25-30 years old, between 5’10" and 6’ tall and weighing between 160 and 180 pounds. > > The person they stopped, punched, and arrested is a black woman, 19 years old, who stands 5’2" and weighs 115 pounds. > > I have uploaded the [police report](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B47mhYKzyMjNRVJPZjFiZlZ3NDQ/view?usp=sharing) from this incident, and you can see the various descriptions of the actual suspect given in three different cases. > > Description 1: > Description 2: > Description 3:The arrest of this guy is detailed on pp. 10-12 of the police report. On page 13 the account of the woman’s arrest begins. > > If you go to [this news story](http://www.bakersfield.com/news/black-teenage-girl-mistaken-for-machete-wielding-black-man-alleges/article_0ae15203-8291-5774-887b-95df9acfb2a8.html), you can see a picture of the woman. She’s being charged with aggravated assault and resisting arrest, which seems to be the go-to charge these days when the cops realize that they stopped the wrong black person. 5’2" 115# 19 year old woman manhandles two full grown men with guns and an attack dog? I wonder if these cop also think women don’t belong in the military. And just FYI resisting arrest has been a go to for a long long time. And everyone knows that any time an assault is committed with a particularly harmful weapon (like a baseball bat or a machete or the bare naked shoulder of 5’2" 115# black woman), it is aggravated assault. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10875 "2017-07-13T16:09:25Z")
Bakersfield Police Beat Teen Girl Because “She appeared to be a male” [http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/‘i-told-him-i-can’t-breathe’-police-punch-teen-girl-after-mistaking-her-for-black-male-suspect/ar-BBEj5wP](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/%E2%80%98i-told-him-i-can%E2%80%99t-breathe%E2%80%99-police-punch-teen-girl-after-mistaking-her-for-black-male-suspect/ar-BBEj5wP) This teenage GIRL who was 5’ 2" was “mistaken” for a 30 year old man 5’ 11" by these incompetent cops. Their immediate actions upon encountering this teenage girl? Well, to punch her of course! Knock her to the ground, sit on her so as to cause her to plead for help, and then have a police dog bite her thigh for good measure. “Ooops, our bad - that is, our bad that you happened to be black”, is the response I would expect from police, but not this time! They charged her with aggravated assault of a pig, eh, officer and resisting arrest, stemming from being in the way of the officer’s fist, I imagine. On top of that, their “internal review” found no issues with the officer’s conduct or use of force (but only a few bad apples, not at all systemic!! am I right?). What a surprise. I liked this comment: “Surely there had to be a dehumanizing stare or two from this little girl to prompt this viscous mauling by these angel policemen who must’ve clearly felt their lives were in danger.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10876 "2017-07-13T17:25:48Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Bakersfield Police Beat Teen Girl Because “She appeared to be a male” > > [MSN](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/%E2%80%98i-told-him-i-can%E2%80%99t-breathe%E2%80%99-police-punch-teen-girl-after-mistaking-her-for-black-male-suspect/ar-BBEj5wP) > > This teenage GIRL who was 5’ 2" was “mistaken” for a 30 year old man 5’ 11" by these incompetent cops. Their immediate actions upon encountering this teenage girl? Well, to punch her of course! Knock her to the ground, sit on her so as to cause her to plead for help, and then have a police dog bite her thigh for good measure. > > “Ooops, our bad - that is, our bad that you happened to be black”, is the response I would expect from police, but not this time! They charged her with aggravated assault of a pig, eh, officer and resisting arrest, stemming from being in the way of the officer’s fist, I imagine. On top of that, their “internal review” found no issues with the officer’s conduct or use of force (but only a few bad apples, not at all systemic!! am I right?). What a surprise. > > I liked this comment: “Surely there had to be a dehumanizing stare or two from this little girl to prompt this viscous mauling by these angel policemen who must’ve clearly felt their lives were in danger.” The excuse that she matched the description just goes to show how racist the cop is in the first place. I can kind of get behind mistaking her for male, but not for a 5’10, 170 lb male. There is one thing that she had in common with the description, just one, and that is the only thing that these cops were looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10877 "2017-07-13T22:53:17Z")
[A Death Row Convict’s Final Words Set Two Innocent Men Free](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-death-row-convict%E2%80%99s-final-words-set-two-innocent-men-free/ar-BBElWWl?li=BBnb7Kz) It seems cops and juries have sucked for a long time. Two teens convicted of a gang murder in 1995. DNA evidence? No. Did they find the gun on them? No. Were their fingerprints on the gun? No. Their fingerprints in the getaway car? No. There were two eyewitnesses. But… > [@](#): > > Two eyewitnesses who placed them at the scene, and who provided inconsistent statements to investigators, later recanted. Their testimonies were crucial, as prosecutors had no physical evidence tying Scott and Carpenter to the murder. In affidavits, the witnesses claimed detectives had coerced their testimony by threatening them with charges. And AND…the cops had the murder weapon, the car, and a guy with a motive: > [@](#): > > Meanwhile, one day after Summers’ death, a Tulsa homicide supervisor visited Michael Lee Wilson, a known member of the Bloods, at his mother’s home. Wilson had been shot in the leg by rival Crips just three days before. The cop found Wilson with a Lorcin pistol—the same gun that killed Summers—and the maroon Ford Taurus. > > Wilson had the murder weapon, the car, and the motive. > > Yet he was never detectives’ main suspect. Instead, Tulsa cops seemed determined to put Carpenter and Scott away for the crime. They were arrested and charged 10 days before ballistics testing on Wilson’s gun was even completed. Tulsa’s Finest. It gets worse. > [@](#): > > Prosecutors offered Wilson—who was arrested weeks after the Summers drive-by—a plea deal in exchange for testifying against Carpenter and Scott. He was released on $5,000 bond. While he was free, he brutally butchered Richard Yost, a night clerk at a Tulsa convenience store in February 1995. That crime was so heinous that Wilson and his co-defendant Billy Alverson both received the death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10878 "2017-07-13T23:16:59Z")
I shudder to think how many people in this country are rotting in prison under similar circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10879 "2017-07-13T23:22:05Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Bakersfield Police Beat Teen Girl Because “She appeared to be a male” > > [MSN](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/%E2%80%98i-told-him-i-can%E2%80%99t-breathe%E2%80%99-police-punch-teen-girl-after-mistaking-her-for-black-male-suspect/ar-BBEj5wP) > > This teenage GIRL who was 5’ 2" was “mistaken” for a 30 year old man 5’ 11" by these incompetent cops. Their immediate actions upon encountering this teenage girl? Well, to punch her of course! Knock her to the ground, sit on her so as to cause her to plead for help, and then have a police dog bite her thigh for good measure. > > “Ooops, our bad - that is, our bad that you happened to be black”, is the response I would expect from police, but not this time! They charged her with aggravated assault of a pig, eh, officer and resisting arrest, stemming from being in the way of the officer’s fist, I imagine. On top of that, their “internal review” found no issues with the officer’s conduct or use of force (but only a few bad apples, not at all systemic!! am I right?). What a surprise. > > I liked this comment: “Surely there had to be a dehumanizing stare or two from this little girl to prompt this viscous mauling by these angel policemen who must’ve clearly felt their lives were in danger.” I know there are cops on this board, and I haven’t read through this whole thread, but have any of them came into the thread after a post like this and said “Yeah, the cops were totally out of line here. We work really hard to avoid stuff like this in my department” or anything like that? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10880 "2017-07-13T23:24:18Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I know there are cops on this board, and I haven’t read through this whole thread, but have any of them came into the thread after a post like this and said “Yeah, the cops were totally out of line here. We work really hard to avoid stuff like this in my department” or anything like that? Yeah, i think i’ve seen that a couple of times in the past. Can’t remember exactly who, or which thread, but it’s happened. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/10881 "2017-07-14T04:08:34Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > 5’2" 115# 19 year old woman manhandles two full grown men with guns and an attack dog? I wonder if these cop also think women don’t belong in the military. > > And just FYI resisting arrest has been a go to for a long long time. And everyone knows that any time an assault is committed with a particularly harmful weapon (like a baseball bat or a machete or the bare naked shoulder of 5’2" 115# black woman), it is aggravated assault. I actually read through the arrest report and I’ll be damned if that girl shouldn’t be waved through the SEALs training by the description of the event. Of course, we know that no police ever lie, right? This comes back to the post I made a few days back about the problem when police officials don’t address the issue when officers lie in their reports and then the video comes out afterwards. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=543) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=545)