# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11042 "2017-08-15T12:33:14Z")

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[Dashcam footage shows cops performing an 11 minute vaginal cavity search on a woman](http://lawnewz.com/crazy/cops-under-fire-after-dashcam-reportedly-shows-11-minute-search-of-womans-vaginal-area/)

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> Harris County prosecutor Natasha Sinclair spoke out against the officers’ actions. “No one in this office stands by the search the way it was conducted. No one condones that,” Sinclair said. “No one thinks it’s appropriate. It should not have happened.” Still, Sinclair said that just because what happened was upsetting and wrong, that doesn’t make it a criminal offense. At the time, officers said that Corley consented to the search, yet they charged her with resisting arrest and possession of .02 ounces of marijuana.

Thank god that dangerous criminal and her 0.02 ounces of the devil’s weed are off the street! The police would have gotten away scot free if it weren’t for those darn k̶i̶d̶s̶ dashcams!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11043 "2017-08-15T15:24:13Z")

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And in Ohio, just another black man [getting beaten by cops](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/15/an-ohio-officer-beat-a-black-man-during-a-traffic-stop-a-town-wants-to-know-why/?utm_term=.2f53775522d3#comments) in a routine traffic stop.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11044 "2017-08-15T15:46:21Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> [Dashcam footage shows cops performing an 11 minute vaginal cavity search on a woman](http://lawnewz.com/crazy/cops-under-fire-after-dashcam-reportedly-shows-11-minute-search-of-womans-vaginal-area/)
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> Thank god that dangerous criminal and her 0.02 ounces of the devil’s weed are off the street! The police would have gotten away scot free if it weren’t for those darn k̶i̶d̶s̶ dashcams!

That’s just one bad apple.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11045 "2017-08-15T15:47:23Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> And in Ohio, just another black man [getting beaten by cops](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/15/an-ohio-officer-beat-a-black-man-during-a-traffic-stop-a-town-wants-to-know-why/?utm_term=.2f53775522d3#comments) in a routine traffic stop.

That’s just one bad apple.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11046 "2017-08-15T15:48:24Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> From the original [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/investigations/police-fired-rehired/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_firedrehired-1225p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.30209d407ff1) investigation:The guy is currently off the force, and has been since the initial firing, but if the arbitrator and review board’s decisions are upheld in the pending court case, he will return to the force, with all eight years of back pay.
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> The story contains more details about the specifics of the sexual abuse case.

That’s just one bad apple.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11047 "2017-08-15T15:49:36Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> [Mississippi cops go to wrong address, kill man who answered door](https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/07/26/Mississippi-cops-kill-man-when-they-go-to-wrong-address-on-arrest-warrant/2221501051117/?ref=yfp)
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> This poor guy has a nice Hispanic - sounding name. The Usual Suspects can go back to victim blamimg.

That’s just a few bad apples. And it was the guy’s own fault for living there anyway.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11048 "2017-08-15T23:30:05Z")

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> **[Euclid Police release dash cam video of arrest (raw)](https://www.cleveland19.com/clip/13590318/euclid-full-dash-webfae02e0c-cae0-4515-bc9e-9859f2bf3dcfmp4/)**

Another vicious dick beating a guy at a traffic stop while his dumb ass partner plays pocket pool. Hmm, two on one. Why not cuff the guy and put in car.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11049 "2017-08-15T23:33:49Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> [Euclid Police release dash cam video of arrest (raw)](http://www.cleveland19.com/clip/13590318/euclid-full-dash-webfae02e0c-cae0-4515-bc9e-9859f2bf3dcfmp4) Why not cuff the guy and put in car.

Because that is not what they became cops to do.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11050 "2017-08-15T23:34:15Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> That’s just a few bad apples. And it was the guy’s own fault for living there anyway.

At least it wasn’t a no-knock warrant.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11051 "2017-08-15T23:35:57Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> [Euclid Police release dash cam video of arrest (raw)](http://www.cleveland19.com/clip/13590318/euclid-full-dash-webfae02e0c-cae0-4515-bc9e-9859f2bf3dcfmp4)
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> Another vicious dick beating a guy at a traffic stop while his dumb ass partner plays pocket pool. Hmm, two on one. Why not cuff the guy and put in car.

Just one bad apple.  
Who am I kidding? You all know where I’m going with this.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11052 "2017-08-16T01:13:53Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> [Dashcam footage shows cops performing an 11 minute vaginal cavity search on a woman](http://lawnewz.com/crazy/cops-under-fire-after-dashcam-reportedly-shows-11-minute-search-of-womans-vaginal-area/)
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> Thank god that dangerous criminal and her 0.02 ounces of the devil’s weed are off the street! The police would have gotten away scot free if it weren’t for those darn k̶i̶d̶s̶ dashcams!

This is fucking disgusting. It’s sexual assault. Fucking rapist mother fuckers.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11053 "2017-08-16T12:45:27Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> This is fucking disgusting. It’s sexual assault. Fucking rapist mother fuckers.

They get away with everything else, and have boot lickers to defend their actions.

They know that they almost certainly won’t get caught, if they are caught, they won’t be indicted, and if they are indicted, there will be at least one person on the jury who is a boot licker and will refuse to convict.

That’s the pattern that they’ve been following. If you are a cop, you should feel like you have license to get away with anything, because you do.

And every time they get away with it, the cops become just that much bolder in their criminal interactions with the public.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11054 "2017-08-16T12:53:49Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> This is fucking disgusting. It’s sexual assault. Fucking rapist mother fuckers.

In the officers’ defense, they may have been frightened by what was in there.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11055 "2017-08-16T16:48:22Z")

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This thread is almost three years old now, and one of the incidents that impelled me to create it was the South Carolina incident where state trooper Sean Groubert told a black motorist to get his drivers license, and shot him as he was in the process of complying with the order.

Groubert pleaded guilty last year to “assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature.” He was sentenced yesterday. The judge handed down a 12-year sentence, but suspended it to five years. Groubert gets credit for the 17 months he’s already served.

[Link](http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article167275827.html)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11056 "2017-08-16T16:50:48Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> This thread is almost three years old now, and one of the incidents that impelled me to create it was the South Carolina incident where state trooper Sean Groubert told a black motorist to get his drivers license, and shot him as he was in the process of complying with the order.

Thanks for creating this thread. It has been eyeopening to see these few “bad apples”.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11057 "2017-08-16T17:47:09Z")

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I don’t use Twitter but there needs to be a ‘#Just a bad apple’ attached to all these stories that get shared.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11058 "2017-08-16T21:40:56Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> This is fucking disgusting. It’s sexual assault. Fucking rapist mother fuckers.

BuzzFeed is putting it out on Twitter right now.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11059 "2017-08-16T21:46:59Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> This thread is almost three years old now, and one of the incidents that impelled me to create it was the South Carolina incident where state trooper Sean Groubert told a black motorist to get his drivers license, and shot him as he was in the process of complying with the order.
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> Groubert pleaded guilty last year to “assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature.” He was sentenced yesterday. The judge handed down a 12-year sentence, but suspended it to five years. Groubert gets credit for the 17 months he’s already served.
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> [Link](http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article167275827.html)

What the fuck.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11060 "2017-08-16T22:01:11Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> What the fuck.

What are you confused about? I was happy to read that this guy got jail time for this…

I don’t know what that is that **mhendo** linked to, but [here is the original dash cam video that led to the assault charge](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs). The shooting is about 40 seconds in. This interaction was one of the clear examples (to me, at least) that there is a problem in the relationship between the police in this country and the populace; there is no reason for the officer to be this afraid.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/11061 "2017-08-16T22:05:23Z")

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> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#):
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> What are you confused about? I was happy to read that this guy got jail time for this…
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> I don’t know what that is that **mhendo** linked to, but [here is the original dash cam video that led to the assault charge](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBUUO_VFYMs). The shooting is about 40 seconds in. This interaction was one of the clear examples (to me, at least) that there is a problem in the relationship between the police in this country and the populace; there is no reason for the officer to be this afraid.

I’m confused because I don’t think ii was enough time. What will he really do? Three years? Less because of parole and good behavior?

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> The judge handed down a 12-year sentence, but suspended it to five years. Groubert gets credit for the 17 months he’s already served.

12 goes down to 5, and subtract 17 months (1.6 years)…  
yup.

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