# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1321 "2015-03-27T15:58:06Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> I find it so strange that this could happen, when the genuinely mentally ill are getting no help whatsoever in much of America.

What about the initial trumped up arrest?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1322 "2015-03-27T16:11:53Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> You need help. I’m serious. I hope the technology to fix whatever is wrong with your brain comes along one day within your lifetime, and mine too.

And you need to lighten up Francis.

I prescribe a watching of Monty Python’s Holy Grail. Then you won’t post dumb stuff like this.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1323 "2015-03-27T16:45:53Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> Sometimes, in controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians, it’s not always law enforcement that’s in the wrong. [Watch this idiot radically misunderstand his rights](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjQc-2GBlYw) and get tazed and arrested as a result of it.

Please Taze him, bro.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1324 "2015-03-28T04:47:04Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Maybe they should talk to a cop.

They may be crazy, but they don’t want to be killed. At least not usually.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1325 "2015-03-28T04:52:35Z")

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[Police brutality video from Detroit](http://deadstate.org/shocking-new-police-brutality-video-emerges-from-detroit/)

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> Yanked from his car and put into a brutal, illegal choke hold, officers begin to repeatedly punch Floyd in the face, nearly knocking him unconscious. Another officer comes up and shocks Floyd three separate times with his Taser – putting him at great risk of death. In all, ten officers, all of them white, made contact with Floyd during this ordeal.
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> While in the hospital, Floyd was forced to take drug tests, which all came back negative for drugs.
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> They eventually charged him with not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Floyd even disputes this charge. One of the officers, as you will see in the video, was previously cited by the government for falsely planting evidence.

Guilty of driving while black.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1326 "2015-03-28T06:46:11Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> I find it so strange that this could happen, when the genuinely mentally ill are getting no help whatsoever in much of America.

😕 Does this mean you don’t believe the story?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1327 "2015-03-28T12:45:23Z")

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Of course she’s lying. She’s not a cop!

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1328 "2015-03-28T13:04:10Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> 😕 Does this mean you don’t believe the story?

No, that’s not what I meant at all, and I guess I phrased it badly. I simply don’t understand how a system that lets so many people through the cracks could do this. Pure bafflement. If only because I would expect them to find any excuse to get someone out of there, as they seem to do even when people _are_ genuinely ill.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1329 "2015-03-28T21:14:04Z")

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[San Francisco Inmates Allegedly Forced To Participate In ‘Barbaric,’ ‘Gladiator-Style’ Fights](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/27/3639831/san-francisco-prisoners-forced-to-fight/) :(.

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1330 "2015-03-28T21:37:00Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> [San Francisco Inmates Allegedly Forced To Participate In ‘Barbaric,’ ‘Gladiator-Style’ Fights](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/27/3639831/san-francisco-prisoners-forced-to-fight/) :(.

Abu Ghraib or an American prison? Aw, who can tell the difference anymore?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1331 "2015-03-29T21:23:57Z")

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Another reason to have a video camera on you at all times.

[Woman records her parole officer raping her because she knows she won’t be believed otherwise](http://www.wsvn.com/story/28625508/parole-officer-accused-of-raping-woman-during-home-visit)

The video must be quite damning because he was immediately fired and charged.

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1332 "2015-03-29T21:59:21Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Another reason to have a video camera on you at all times.
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> [Woman records her parole officer raping her because she knows she won’t be believed otherwise](http://www.wsvn.com/story/28625508/parole-officer-accused-of-raping-woman-during-home-visit)
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> The video must be quite damning because he was immediately fired and charged.

The parole officer is lucky she didn’t go all Lisbeth Salander and rape him with a bedpost. Hopefully he’ll get to experience rape in prison, though.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1333 "2015-03-30T03:14:49Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> Hopefully he’ll get to experience rape in prison, though.

…no, hopefully he won’t. What a stupid, moronic, absolutely disgusting thing to say.

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1334 "2015-03-30T03:23:35Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …no, hopefully he won’t. What a stupid, moronic, absolutely disgusting thing to say.

If life hasn’t taughr him not to rape, I doubt a few years in prison will. Rape has an _extremely_ high rate of recidivism. One of the highest of all crimes, in fact. Given that, maybe prison rape would do more than mere incarceration.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1335 "2015-03-30T06:15:01Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> If life hasn’t taughr him not to rape, I doubt a few years in prison will. Rape has an _extremely_ high rate of recidivism. One of the highest of all crimes, in fact. Given that, maybe prison rape would do more than mere incarceration.

…you know, being pro-rape isn’t something to be proud of dude.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1336 "2015-03-30T06:33:23Z")

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You mean rewarding predators in prison with some fresh meat to rape is wrong? What a world.

This piece of shit was a parole officer for 25 years. It’s unlikely this was his first victim.

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1337 "2015-03-30T16:14:28Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …you know, being pro-rape isn’t something to be proud of dude.

Neither is being naive about the psychology of rapists, hmm?

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**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1338 "2015-03-30T16:15:58Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> You mean rewarding predators in prison with some fresh meat to rape is wrong? What a world.
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> This piece of shit was a parole officer for 25 years. It’s unlikely this was his first victim.

Exactly. Once a rapist, always a rapist.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1339 "2015-03-30T18:42:37Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> Neither is being naive about the psychology of rapists, hmm?

…I’m not naive about the “psychology of rapists.” How on earth can you tell that from the two sentences I’ve written to you?

You do realize that there is no literature out there that supports the theory that rape prevents rape? You do realize that in order for someone to get raped, there needs to be another rapist? You do realize that you support state sanctioned rape? That the pool of recidivist rapists would get bigger if your wish were granted?

I’m not the naive one.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1340 "2015-03-30T19:02:05Z")

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> [@get\_lives](#):
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> Exactly. Once a rapist, always a rapist.

Well, yeah. It’s sort of like “Once you are judged to have murdered someone, you will always be a murderer”.

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