# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1361 "2015-03-30T21:41:11Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > By a cop? I’m open to the idea. Alright, so there are conditions in which it’s perfectly OK, and in fact legally mandated, to take sexual advantage of a nonconsenting other. What differentiates acceptable rape from not-acceptable rape? ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1362 "2015-03-30T21:43:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Alright, so there are conditions in which it’s perfectly OK, and in fact legally mandated, to take sexual advantage of a nonconsenting other. > > What differentiates acceptable rape from not-acceptable rape? It’s ok to prison rape a cop who has been convicted of rape. It’s also ok to castrate him. IMHO ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1363 "2015-03-30T22:01:10Z")
You first. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1364 "2015-03-30T22:06:32Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > It’s ok to prison rape a cop who has been convicted of rape. It’s also ok to castrate him. IMHO Hey, asshole moron, if you want to start a thread to cheer for rapists, go right ahead, but get the fuck out of this thread with your off-topic, rape-supporting bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1365 "2015-03-30T23:32:51Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Hey, asshole moron, if you want to start a thread to cheer for rapists, go right ahead, but get the fuck out of this thread with your off-topic, rape-supporting bullshit. do you feel better? ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1366 "2015-03-31T18:23:20Z")
Has [officer Melendez](http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/30/floyd-dent-police-inkster-michigan-beating) been mentioned yet? > [@](#): > > Dent opened his door and was dragged out of his Cadillac; almost immediately, Melendez put him in a chokehold. Melendez then proceeded to deliver 16 blows to Dent’s temple. This all took place in about 15 seconds. Another officer arrived moments later and proceeded to use a taser stun gun against Dent, three times. In the video, Dent, with blood dripping from his forehead and cheek, appears not to be resisting Melendez’s efforts to arrest him. That’s not the worst part > [@](#): > > While Dent was sitting in the back seat of a cruiser, police say they found a small bag of cocaine underneath the passenger seat of his vehicle. > > Dent, whose post-arrest drug test came up negative, says police planted that evidence. Rohl, Dent’s attorney, contends that a close review of a video released this week shows Melendez pulling a bag of drugs from his pocket. And for icing? > [@](#): > > Melendez’s record shows he has faced similar allegations before. At one point, he garnered more citizen complaints than any officer in Detroit, where he started his career in 1993 and served until his resignation in 2009. He entered Inkster’s police force a year later. > > Over nearly two decades, Melendez has been named as a defendant in a dozen federal lawsuits, accused of planting evidence, wrongfully killing unarmed civilians, falsifying police reports and conducting illegal arrests. Some suits were settled out of court. Others were dismissed. Just a bad apple. Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1367 "2015-04-01T00:32:08Z")
[Plaincloths cop acts like an asshole jerkface to an Uber driver, caught on tape](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Uber-Driver-Rant-Parking-West-Village-NYPD-Internal-Affairs-Bureau-Probe-Traffic-Stop-298198631.html). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1368 "2015-04-01T11:57:36Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Plaincloths cop acts like an asshole jerkface to an Uber driver, caught on tape](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Uber-Driver-Rant-Parking-West-Village-NYPD-Internal-Affairs-Bureau-Probe-Traffic-Stop-298198631.html). > [@](#): > > The officer, seen wearing a green tie and blue shirt Cops can’t even do “plainclothes” right. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1369 "2015-04-01T13:34:33Z")
It still surprises me that cops haven’t figured out yet, they might be on camera at any time. People behave slightly better when they know they are on TV ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1370 "2015-04-01T14:25:47Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > It still surprises me that cops haven’t figured out yet, they might be on camera at any time. People behave slightly better when they know they are on TV Not cops. They know they can get away with it. Officer Melendez detailed above, got away with worse for decades apparently. Until we have accountability and transparency in our police departments, that’s never going to change, they will continue to feel like they are above the law, and certainly above unprofessionalism, because THEY ARE. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1371 "2015-04-01T18:50:04Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Plaincloths cop acts like an asshole jerkface to an Uber driver, caught on tape](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Uber-Driver-Rant-Parking-West-Village-NYPD-Internal-Affairs-Bureau-Probe-Traffic-Stop-298198631.html). **Smapti** , I would like to hear your opinion on this incident. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1372 "2015-04-02T03:50:03Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > **Smapti** , I would like to hear your opinion on this incident. Well I’m normally give cops the benefit of the doubt, but this asshole makes me think public floggings would be a good start. I have little problems with hanging the cops out to dry when there is clear cut evidence of misbehavior on their part. Many situations we discuss here are not so black and white (pun sorta intended). ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1373 "2015-04-02T04:41:29Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [Plaincloths cop acts like an asshole jerkface to an Uber driver, caught on tape](http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Uber-Driver-Rant-Parking-West-Village-NYPD-Internal-Affairs-Bureau-Probe-Traffic-Stop-298198631.html). And here comes my blood pressure just watching that asshole. I wouldn’t have been able to control myself. I would’ve flew out of the car and forced him in traffic. That driver deserves a prize for dealing with that. Of course, that’s not the smart way, admittedly. The best way is the way they did it. Complained with evidence, cop is disciplined with restricted duty and his face is all over the web world. But really, it wouldn’t end for me with that. I’d harass him as much as possible. I laughed like hell when he asks the “fare” if this guy is driving around and wasting your time yadda yadda. No, buddy, I’m the fare, YOU wasted my time and you can’t fucking park to save your life so let’s get you fired and start the stalking. I would grab him, escort him to his car and show him over and over how turn signals worked and insisted he called ME sir. One of the 90% who just aren’t qualified, educated enough, or both. Cops are shit. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1374 "2015-04-02T06:07:31Z")
[Toronto Police maintain database of black people](http://www.vice.com/read/the-massive-police-database-of-biased-carding-information-on-black-torontonians-should-be-destroyed-782) because [ya know, just in case, I guess: > [@](#): > > A Star analysis of Toronto police stop data from 2008 to mid-2011 shows that the number of young black and brown males aged 15 to 24 documented in each of the city’s 72 patrol zones is greater than the actual number of young men of colour living in those areas. ]([Known to Police | Investigation | The Star](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/knowntopolice.html)) This isn’t even something new, however: > [@](#): > > This analysis of Toronto police data is a continuation of a groundbreaking Star investigative series published a decade ago. Following that series, the Star fought for seven years for updated police data and followed up in 2010 . This time, the Star looks at fresh data from 2008 to mid-2011. > The Star analysis shows carding of citizens is on the rise, and it takes a new look at individuals carded versus population. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1375 "2015-04-02T10:10:39Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > **Smapti** , I would like to hear your opinion on this incident. The cop shouldn’t have flown off the handle and the Uber driver shouldn’t have been operating an unlicensed taxi. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1376 "2015-04-02T10:19:53Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > the Uber driver shouldn’t have been operating an unlicensed taxi. He wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1377 "2015-04-02T10:34:54Z")
That’s fucking hilarious. Driver tells other driver (the cop) to use blinker when parking. Cop gets mad and threatens to arrest driver. And some people still wonder why there is so much hate for the police? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1378 "2015-04-02T10:36:19Z")
It only takes a few cops to ruin it for all the other cops. That the asshole cops don’t get this, is the eternal tragedy of the police. I mean, you shoot one person by mistake and the next thing you know, people think all cops will just shoot you. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1379 "2015-04-02T16:40:07Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > He wasn’t. Was he licensed by the city to operate a livery cab? If not, then he was operating an unlicensed taxi. That’s irrelevant to how he was treated though, because in this case the cop’s behavior was clearly unprofessional. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1380 "2015-04-02T16:45:04Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Was he licensed by the city to operate a livery cab? Irrelevant, since that’s not what he was doing. Please try to keep up with the class. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=70)