# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 720
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14382 "2018-10-22T15:37:00Z")
You can absolutely post what you wish. I am however asking ( even using the word “please”) that you take the fucking trouble to read what you link, rather than dump mis-read headlines on us over which you got your panties in a wad without bothering reading the article involved. In other words, if you don’t want to read it, don’t ask us to. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14383 "2018-10-22T15:43:59Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Who are you the link police? [Yep](https://goo.gl/images/wVGzKP) ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14384 "2018-10-22T15:51:31Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > You can absolutely post what you wish. I am however asking ( even using the word “please”) that you take the fucking trouble to read what you link, rather than dump mis-read headlines on us over which you got your panties in a wad without bothering reading the article involved. > > In other words, if you don’t want to read it, don’t ask us to. I did read it. And three of my four friends read it and also thought it was a police officer (the first one who sent it to me indicated it was a police officer which probably biased my reading of it). It was the fourth one who pointed out it wasn’t. You know what’s horrible? That American policing is in such disrepute that anybody could read it an accidentally think it was a police officer. Anyway, thank you your majesty for graciously allowing me to post what I wish. Your graciousness and mercy truly know no bounds. I am such a pale shadow to you who was never misread anything. I bask in the presence of one so perfect as yourself. For truly, I misread something and then pointed out my own error, I am literally the worst person on the planet. Equal to at least 10 kiloTrumps. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14385 "2018-10-22T15:51:36Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > FYI, this story is _not_ going viral on twitter. Retweets are in the single digits. Not a lot of outrage. > > [https://twitter.com/hashtag/BiscayneParkPD?src=hash](https://twitter.com/hashtag/BiscayneParkPD?src=hash) > Never lose your ability to be shocked. I posted about it on Facebook when the news first broke that the officers were being charged for falsely pinning crimes on black people, and even among my super-woke FB following I think there were only like three responses. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14386 "2018-10-22T20:33:50Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > > [@Isosleepy](#): > > > > Pretty clear from the article he wasn’t a cop. And that he was in fact arrested. And charged. If you are going to post links to articles here, please actually read them first. Even in the pit. > > Who are you the link police? I’ll post what I wish, and if I make a mistake I’ll point it out. So you can take you self-righteous attitude and stick it up your ass (and tell them Boromir sent you). Unless you’re making the claim you’ve never ever made any mistake by misreading something in your life. **Controversial encounter between link-enforcement and civilian** ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14387 "2018-10-22T21:04:19Z")
Police in Atlanta, Georgia area look for 18 year old black **cop-killer** Tafahree Maynard: > [@](#): > > Two officers searching a shed behind a house that belonged to someone Maynard knew encountered Maynard about 11 a.m. Monday, police said. Maynard refused to surrender and failed to comply with verbal commands to show his hands, police said. > > One officer fired his stun gun, which didn’t incapacitate Maynard, police said. **Maynard then pulled out a lawnmower blade and moved aggressively toward officers** , prompting the second officer to fire his gun, striking and killing Maynard, police said. > **[Officer fatally shoots suspect in Georgia police slaying](https://apnews.com/general-news-4fe07e1a7ac04b4aa509aa24c4e0627e)** > > Police say an 18-year-old man accused of fatally shooting an Atlanta-area police officer over the weekend has been shot and killed by another officer. While it could well have happened this way others might think police decided to kill him as soon as they found him and the mower blade was the only possible weapon around. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14388 "2018-10-22T21:09:48Z")
Who wants to bet that the officers were wearing functioning body cams that captured the entire incident? And who wants to bet that the officers were wearing cameras that somehow failed to record during the incident? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14389 "2018-10-23T21:56:27Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > This. If it were up to me, they’d be serving the entirety of the sentences the people they’d framed would have served, if they’d been convicted. > > IOW, see you guys in a few decades. That would be fair, in cases like this where it was deliberate. This is no “honest mistake in the performance of their duties” at all. You set someone up for thirty years, YOU get the thirty years. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14390 "2018-11-01T20:20:09Z")
Massachusetts cop indicted by the feds for beating and unlawfully threatening a Latino teenager. From the [indictment](https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1106576/download) (PDF): > [@](#): > > Specifically, within hours of the assaults on E.P. and D.R. charged in Counts One and Two, Defendant BIGDA interrogated juvenile arrestee D.R. outside the presence of his parents and without reading him Miranda warnings. During that interrogation, Defendant BIGDA threatened to, among other things, “crush [D.R.'s] skull and fucking get away with it”; “fucking bring the dog back [and] let him fucking go after” D.R.; “fucking kill [D.R.] in the parking lot”; “charge [D.R.] with killing Kennedy and fucking make it stick”; “stick a fucking kilo of coke in [D.R.’ s] pocket and put [him] away for fucking 15 years”; and “kick [D.R.] right in the fucking face as soon as [they] cross the Springfield line.” The offense involved the threatened use of a dangerous weapon. According to [this story](https://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/10/springfield_police_officers_in_2.html), the cop in question actually, literally kills puppies: > [@](#): > > Bigda has a history of civilian complaints. He has been accused of assaulting a pregnant woman, saying “I hate Puerto Ricans” and pepper-spraying puppies to death. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14391 "2018-11-01T20:43:37Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > According to [this story](https://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/10/springfield_police_officers_in_2.html), the cop in question actually, literally kills puppies: People might not care that he beats women and hates Puerto Ricans, but they will definitely be calling for blood because he killed a puppy. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14392 "2018-11-01T21:28:52Z")
[Somebody call John Wick](https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/3251116-be-kind-to-animals-or-ill-kill-you-john-wick-shirt)! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14393 "2018-11-12T20:53:58Z")
[Here’s a two-fer:](https://wgntv.com/2018/11/12/officer-responds-to-gunfire-fatally-shoots-security-guard-at-robbins-bar/) a situation showing that (a) it is possible to get a situation under control without shooting someone, and (b) there are plenty of cops who shoot first and ask questions later. This happened in Robbins, Illinois, which is basically a southern suburb of Chicago. A bunch of drunk guys are asked to leave a bar. Someone comes back later and starts shooting, injuring four people. Security guards get the situation under control, and one of the security guards has one of the suspects on the ground with a gun in his back. > [@](#): > > Roberson [the security guard] was able to detain one of the men involved outside. > > “He had somebody on the ground with his knee in back, with his gun in his back, like, ‘Don’t move,’” Harris said. Then the local police arrive on the scene and shoot the security guard dead. > [@](#): > > “Everybody was screaming out, ‘Security!’ He was a security guard,” witness Adam Harris said. I’ll give you one guess as to the race of the security guard. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14394 "2018-11-12T20:58:02Z")
I just read that same article; I was heading here to post. Remarkable. The whole “good guy with a gun” thing kind of goes out the window if the good guy is the wrong color, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14395 "2018-11-12T21:11:30Z")
Wow. That’s tragic. Not all that surprising. But tragic for the guard and his family. If you can, please post updates on whether the police officer is charged. It sure looks like they are teaching “Shoot first, ask questions later” at police academies. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14396 "2018-11-12T21:30:02Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > …one of the security guards has one of the suspects on the ground with a gun in his back. I’m certainly not a trained LEO, and I readily admit that most of what I think I know regarding police protocol comes from CSI and Law And Order. But this position appears to be one that an LEO would take with a suspect, rather than a suspect with a hostage. By the way, the deceased security guard wanted to be a cop. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14397 "2018-11-12T21:45:21Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > [Here’s a two-fer:](https://wgntv.com/2018/11/12/officer-responds-to-gunfire-fatally-shoots-security-guard-at-robbins-bar/) a situation showing that (a) it is possible to get a situation under control without shooting someone, and (b) there are plenty of cops who shoot first and ask questions later. > > This happened in Robbins, Illinois, which is basically a southern suburb of Chicago. > > A bunch of drunk guys are asked to leave a bar. Someone comes back later and starts shooting, injuring four people. Security guards get the situation under control, and one of the security guards has one of the suspects on the ground with a gun in his back. Then the local police arrive on the scene and shoot the security guard dead.I’ll give you one guess as to the race of the security guard. I don’t know why, but this one hit me particularly hard. The security guard does everything right, doesn’t shoot anyone, apprehends one of the troublemakers, he’s the hero of the moment - and the cops shoot him dead. Sounds like they didn’t even shout “Drop your gun!” or anything like that, just shot him dead. Yeah, of course he was black. Sounds like he was a beautiful guy, too. And he’s snuffed out, just like that. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14398 "2018-11-12T21:59:10Z")
I also read this story and came here to post it. What an awful tragedy. I’ll bet that the cop gets nothing more than a slap on the wrist. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14399 "2018-11-12T23:13:16Z")
Don’t worry. The drunk will be charged for the death of the security guard. ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14400 "2018-11-13T11:17:46Z")
Tell me again how a “good guy with a gun” is supposed to solve gun violence. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14401 "2018-11-13T12:26:02Z")
I think that the kind of people who say that mean a good white guy with a gun. It doesn’t occur to them that a black guy can also be a good guy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=719) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=721)