# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 730
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14583 "2019-02-19T20:33:07Z")
Some good from a bad situation. [Houston Police To Cease ‘No Knock’ Warrants, Chief Announces After Deadly Raid](https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695926963/houston-police-to-cease-no-knock-warrants-chief-announces-after-deadly-raid) > [@](#): > > Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo says his department will stop serving “no knock” search warrants, weeks after a raid on a house left two married suspects dead and five officers injured. Acevedo also reiterated that the officer who led that raid may face criminal charges. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14584 "2019-02-19T20:37:58Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Some good from a bad situation. > > [Houston Police To Cease ‘No Knock’ Warrants, Chief Announces After Deadly Raid](https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695926963/houston-police-to-cease-no-knock-warrants-chief-announces-after-deadly-raid) Good news. I hope the policy spreads everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14585 "2019-02-20T07:54:36Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > California police officers fatally shot a 20-year-old rapper who was sleeping in his car outside a Taco Bell, authorities said. > > > > Six Vallejo officers fired “multiple rounds” at the man, identified by family as Willie McCoy, police said. McCoy had a handgun on him when the officers fired out of “fear for their own safety” on Saturday night, according to the department… > > > > Police said officers were checking up on McCoy after a Taco Bell employee called 911 and said a man was “slumped over” behind the wheel of his car at the fast-food restaurant drive through on Saturday at around 10.30pm. McCoy was unresponsive and had a handgun on his lap, police said, adding that the doors were locked and the car was on. After they called for backup, McCoy “suddenly” moved, officials said in a statement. > > [Six California officers fire shots at rapper who had been asleep in car, killing him | US policing | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/12/california-police-shooting-willie-mccoy) Jeez. They turned him into hamburger meat. [California rapper killed in car was shot by police about 25 times, lawyer says](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-rapper-killed-car-was-shot-police-about-25-times-n972886) ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14586 "2019-02-20T12:35:24Z")
Eerily similar to a shooting 20 yrs ago. [Tyisha Miller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyisha_Miller) > [@](#): > > Tyisha Shenee Miller (March 9, 1979 – December 28, 1998) was an African American woman from Rubidoux, California. She was shot and killed by police officers called by family members who could not wake her as she lay unconscious in a car ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14587 "2019-02-20T15:15:49Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Jeez. They turned him into hamburger meat. [California rapper killed in car was shot by police about 25 times, lawyer says](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-rapper-killed-car-was-shot-police-about-25-times-n972886) I have posted this before as a joke. Now, I think it may actually be accurate. ![](https://media1.tenor.com/m/X1xowzhilEMAAAAC/brooklyn-nine-nine-terry-crews.gif "Sergeant Jeffords Shooting - Brooklyn Nine-nine GIF - Brooklyn Nine Nine Terry...") ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14588 "2019-02-20T18:37:30Z")
[Palm Beach Gardens (FL) Nouman Raja’s trial starts tomorrow (21 Feb 2019)](https://apnews.com/3ea937e908264b6898e4a1ae3a94e432). > [@](#): > > He is charged with manslaughter and attempted first-degree murder for the 2015 shooting of Corey Jones. Jones, a 31-year-old black musician, had just gotten out of his broken-down SUV when he was confronted by Raja, who was dressed in plainclothes and driving an unmarked white van. The shooting happened amid several highly publicized killings of black men by police officers nationwide, some leading to prosecutions. Raja, 41, could face a life sentence if convicted. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14589 "2019-02-20T23:01:34Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > Good news. I hope the policy spreads everywhere. This. I hope it spreads and becomes universal. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14590 "2019-02-20T23:09:35Z")
Some possibly good news for a change. States cannot ignore the Constitution when imposing fines or confiscating people’s property in civil or criminal cases, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled Wednesday. The decision in **Timbs v. Indiana** means there will be changes in the widespread and chronically abused law enforcement tactic of civil asset forfeiture. This was a unanimous ruling. It is estimated that four out of five asset forfeiture cases nationwide do not feature a criminal conviction. In many cases, the person whose things get taken never even gets charged with a crime, let alone convicted of one. These civil forfeitures have become a key revenue-raising tool for prosecutors’ offices and police agencies — a broken incentive structure that has made dubious property confiscations (robbery) common around the country. The ruling states what should have been obvious all along — that the Eighth Amendment’s “excessive fines clause” applies in state and local courts not just federal ones. Law enforcement groups have virulently opposed past efforts to curb the abuse potential (legalized robbery) baked into a system where people with guns and badges get materially rewarded from illegitimate thefts of private property. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14591 "2019-02-21T01:53:39Z")
[This chapter](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/2/18/1835528/-Portland-Police-s-chummy-handling-of-far-right-extremists-creates-a-well-earned-uproar) in the ongoing saga of Portland pisses me off. Ahead of a Patriot Prayer rally, Police informed their leader that it would be treated as a ‘mutual combat’ situation. > [@](#): > > “Mutual combat is a law that states that, it’s something that happens in a lot of bars and stuff, if two guys go outside and they both agree to fight, kinda like training or whatever, no charges can be pressed, which I understand, I get that,” Gibson explained, incorrectly. “So basically if you want to be able to march in Portland, and the Portland citizens disagree with you, and they choose to use violence, you’re going to have to defend yourself.” Some of Patriot Prayer’s supporters interpreted all this as a kind of carte blanche for violence. OK, the fuzz were apparently hoping for a melee that they could hang on “Antifa”. > [@](#): > > After that Aug. 4 event, when a number of issues arose about how police handled the inevitable violence after … a large knot of Proud Boys bent on fighting … descended on Portland from outside the city, Sgt. Burley peculiarly blamed the SPLC for the alerting the public to the looming protest. “I think it is disheartening that an organization outside the City of Portland is making a statement that could potentially inflame an already intense situation” … That makes me angry. Blame the (out-of-towner) SPLC for those (out-of-towner) guys being assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14592 "2019-02-23T01:14:24Z")
Arizona cop threatens to throw a 12-year-old reporter (she’s been an investigative reporter for three years) in jail for video taping him. [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14593 "2019-02-23T18:54:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Arizona cop threatens to throw a 12-year-old reporter (she’s been an investigative reporter for three years) in jail for video taping him. > [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php) “Go ahead Suzie, take a swing at me!” ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14594 "2019-02-23T19:40:47Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [This chapter](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/2/18/1835528/-Portland-Police-s-chummy-handling-of-far-right-extremists-creates-a-well-earned-uproar) in the ongoing saga of Portland pisses me off. Ahead of a Patriot Prayer rally, Police informed their leader that it would be treated as a ‘mutual combat’ situation. > OK, the fuzz were apparently hoping for a melee that they could hang on “Antifa”. > > That makes me angry. Blame the (out-of-towner) SPLC for those (out-of-towner) guys being assholes. “Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses” ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14595 "2019-02-23T22:16:08Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Arizona cop threatens to throw a 12-year-old reporter (she’s been an investigative reporter for three years) in jail for video taping him. > [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php) This girl is my new hero. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14596 "2019-02-23T22:33:44Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > This girl is my new hero. Yup! ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14597 "2019-02-23T23:24:09Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > In the close competition for America’s Worst State, Arizona stakes its claim once again with [this case of police brutality](https://www.kshb.com/news/national/abuse-of-force-body-camera-video-shows-man-tased-11-times-by-officers-in-arizona).The officer most involved “was suspended for 30 hours and remains an active officer on the force.” But of course, there’s no institutional component to police misconduct; it’s just a few bad apples. Thirty hours. [After three _other_ suspensions and two reprimands](https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/glendale-officer-from-tasing-investigation-has-history-of-suspensions-discipline). > [@](#): > > Schneider has been separately disciplined for using excessive force, workplace harassment, insubordination, improper destruction of a citizen’s personal property, and unbecoming conduct. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14598 "2019-02-24T17:47:41Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Arizona cop threatens to throw a 12-year-old reporter (she’s been an investigative reporter for three years) in jail for video taping him. > [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/An-Arizona-officer-threatened-to-arrest-a-13636478.php) [Tweet from the 12-year-old reporter](https://twitter.com/orangestreetnew/status/1099399098560503809). > [@](#): > > Hilde Lysiak > @orangestreetnew > > NOTE: People have been requesting how they could donate to the OSN. Thank you but I am proud to say that for the past five years the OSN has turned a profit because of my journalism. There are many great causes that I am sure can use help, but I am not one of them. But thank you. Nothing but respect for her. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14599 "2019-02-24T21:34:55Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > [Tweet from the 12-year-old reporter](https://twitter.com/orangestreetnew/status/1099399098560503809). > > Nothing but respect for her. Aye; that pretty much puts her over the top: she totally fucking rocks! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14600 "2019-02-25T16:22:53Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > Thirty hours. [After three _other_ suspensions and two reprimands](https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/glendale-officer-from-tasing-investigation-has-history-of-suspensions-discipline). Jesus, what do you have to do to get fired as a cop in Glendale? > [@](#): > > Schneider has been separately disciplined for using excessive force, workplace harassment, insubordination, improper destruction of a citizen’s personal property, and unbecoming conduct. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14601 "2019-03-04T12:45:28Z")
[12-Year-Old Rapper Lil C-Note Facing Felony Charges For Selling CDs At Atlanta Mall](https://genius.com/a/12-year-old-rapper-lil-c-note-facing-felony-charges-for-selling-cds-at-atlanta-mall) > [@](#): > > charges include obstruction of an officer, disorderly conduct with violence, and criminal trespassing. I guess its off to kick over some little kid’s lemonade stand next. Hopefully this will be a boon for him as the kid was [featured on Ellen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9qLUM0Whg) a couple of years ago so he has a good understanding of marketing/exposure. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14602 "2019-03-06T12:17:30Z")
I donno. In the linked article the kid had already been warned after being caught selling CDs in the mall. He had been issued a criminal trespass warning. There is probably surveillance video. This is one I’d like to see more then the clip show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=729) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=731)