# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 738
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14743 "2019-05-21T15:32:19Z")
“I hope you’re ready to explain this law/policy to the families of cops who get killed by guns disguised as cel phones, fingers, penguins, etc. It’s practically an epidemic right now; it’s only gonna get worse if this kind of proposal goes through.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14744 "2019-05-21T16:15:02Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Not sure what part of my post you are responding to here. I specifically said “I don’t think she should have given birth there”, so all the comments above seem non-responsive? > > I just thought that putting her back in jail after the birth (assuming good cause to put her there in the first place) was not out of line. I think the issue is that they put her what had to be an intensely traumatizing experience–I can’t even imagine the pain, and the very realistic possibility that she and/or her baby were going to die there cold and alone. And this went on for hours. To, after that, put her right back where the trauma occurred as quickly as medically feasible seems incredibly inhumane. This is a jail, not a prison: s he was arrested a month before the birth and does not appear to have been tried. We are very likely talking about someone being held because they can’t post bail. She was put through a profoundly horrific experience at the hands of these people. Returning her to their hands seems . . .insane. Especially if she hasn’t even been convicted of a crime. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14745 "2019-05-22T15:36:36Z")
[Jackbooted Thugs in San Francisco](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/adachi-leak-sf-cops-explain-why-they-raided-journalist-cite-conspiracy-probe/ar-AABHax5#page=2) > [@](#): > > Adachi leak: SF cops explain why they raided journalist, cite conspiracy probe There was a conspiracy! We were trying to keep shit secret…and they conspired to make it public!! > [@](#): > > Under fire for a raid on the home and office of a freelance journalist who refused to identify a confidential source, San Francisco Police Chief Bill Scott Tuesday explained the action by saying his department suspected the man took part in a criminal conspiracy to steal an internal police report on the February death of Public Defender Jeff Adachi. He wouldn’t tell us who the source was, so it was conspiracy! > [@](#): > > The chief explained why police believe Carmody participated in a conspiracy: “We believe that … an SFPD employee was a part of this. We believe that in order for this to be successfully pulled off, there had to be some contact between the employee and Mr. Carmody … we believe he was part of the effort to illegally obtain this report.” Yes, it’s called a leaked report. This is unmitigated bullshit. > [@](#): > > Scott alternately said of the May 10 raid: “I’m not here to try to defend it.” He acknowledged that “leaks happen all the time” and that “I understand a journalist can receive reports.” He said repeatedly, “There are some lessons to be learned here.” You are a lying motherfucker. > [@](#): > > Later, he said, “We respect the news media,” and promised his department would “really dissect (its investigation) and be thoughtful about it. We have to own what we own.” I really, really, really want to punch this guy. > [@](#): > > “I hope this is not coming across as a defense,” he said. “This is an opportunity to tell people why we did what we did.” "Why did you make us do that?!?!? > [@](#): > > “This highlights the very serious need for the Police Department search warrant material to be unsealed,” said David Snyder, executive director of the First Amendment Coalition. “It’s one thing to have the police chief explain what happened at a press conference a week and a half later. It’s another thing entirely to understand what the Police Department told the judges that signed the warrant.” Sealed search warrants. _SEALED SEARCH WARRANTS?!?!?!?_ > [@](#): > > Asked about the sledgehammer on Tuesday, Scott said, “We know that looks bad.” You think??? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14746 "2019-05-22T18:49:26Z")
To clarify, [here is an SFGate story that covers the police report](https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-Public-Defender-Jeff-Adachi-died-accidental-13710124.php#photo-16973723) in question. The troubling aspect to it is that Adachi was very adamant about protecting people against police abuses. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14747 "2019-05-22T23:57:11Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Sort of - it might be “reasonable” to shoot someone even if it turns out later not Fuck ‘em, right? They’re black so it doesn’t matter, right? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14748 "2019-05-23T00:01:37Z")
I guess this goes here: [Fugitive with seven outstanding warrants agrees to turn himself in if his wanted poster on Facebook gets 15,000 likes](https://apnews.com/8216c807135f4c7f9821d41ba440d3db). The cops negotiated him down from 20,000. ETA: [The Facebook page in question](https://www.facebook.com/TorringtonPD/). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14749 "2019-05-23T00:05:00Z")
_It seemed like a good idea at the time._ ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14750 "2019-05-23T13:25:03Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Fuck ‘em, right? They’re black so it doesn’t matter, right? No, that’s a very stupid thing to say. “Reasonable” is different from a knee-jerk reaction, which you may not recognize. Best of luck to you in working to overcome your intellectual deficits. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14751 "2019-05-23T19:49:40Z")
[Police officer fired after punching, using Taser on woman in front of her daughter](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-officer-fired-after-punching-using-taser-on-woman-in-front-of-her-daughter/ar-AABNImE#page=2) > [@](#): > > The person filming the incident, who appears to be on the phone with authorities, says, “I’m recording this. He slammed her on the ground. He’s tased her like three times. This is crazy. … He slammed her on the car.” > [@](#): > > “The warrant for her arrest was unable to be confirmed due to the computers being down for the City of Atlanta,” Hines said. He arrested her anyway for disorderly conduct, but not before medics treated her for a swollen eye and _determined there were no marks on Hines’ hand "from being bitten_," he wrote. Because this dangerous criminal had a warrant on an outstanding speeding ticket. Which has not yet been confirmed, BTW. No matter. I am certain this man will employed as a police officer in Decatur or Marietta by the end of the month. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14752 "2019-05-23T21:53:14Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No, that’s a very stupid thing to say. > > “Reasonable” is different from a knee-jerk reaction, which you may not recognize. Best of luck to you in working to overcome your intellectual deficits. > > Regards, > > Shodan You are just another racist dipshit. A worthless piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14753 "2019-05-23T22:53:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > … that’s a very stupid thing to say. … Right: **TokyoBayer** was channeling you, so of course it was a stupid thing to say. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14754 "2019-05-23T23:37:33Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > You are just another racist dipshit. A worthless piece of shit. Many, many years ago I thought Shodan was alright. Then his true colors slowly came out. Maybe we need **iiandyii** to link where that slime admits to calling blacks “niggers”. It doesn’t matter if a racist fuck can occasionally come up with a clever line. He’s still a racist fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14755 "2019-05-24T12:34:03Z")
Quoting the voices in your head again is not a good sign. Have you had your meds re-evaluated lately? > [@Shodan](#): > > Regards, > Shodan ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14756 "2019-05-24T12:38:38Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Maybe we need **iiandyii** to link where that slime admits to calling blacks “niggers”. You forgot a pair of i’s, but I’m still happy to assist: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20337966#post20337966](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20337966#post20337966) ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14757 "2019-05-24T22:50:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You forgot a pair of i’s, but I’m still happy to assist: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20337966#post20337966](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20337966#post20337966) Sorry about the name! That’s it. What is it about these racist guys who get hard ons when blacks use the term? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14758 "2019-05-25T19:21:42Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Quoting the voices in your head again is not a good sign. Have you had your meds re-evaluated lately? > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Shodan > > Regards, > > Shodan Dude, you are quoting yourself here. Are you sure that you are alright? Do you need to talk o someone about the stress that you are under in doing your part in supporting a fascist regime? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14759 "2019-05-28T13:01:18Z")
Welcome back! How was prison? Did you make any friends there? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14760 "2019-05-28T14:39:48Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Welcome back! > > How was prison? Did you make any friends there? > > Regards, > Shodan Of course, you being the fascist supporter that you are, would hope that those you disagree with would end up in prison (or dead), but sadly for your fragile insecurities, your fantasies did not come true. OTOH, yes, I did make some friends while I was gone, thank you for asking. How many of your friends discovered what a shitty person you are and want nothing more to do with you, or do you not have any left? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14761 "2019-05-29T04:36:03Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14762 "2019-05-29T15:43:59Z")
Anyone want to defend this cop? > **[Arkansas cop claims black man has a gun -- until he realizes he is being...](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/oklahoma-cop-claims-black-man-has-a-gun-until-he-realizes-he-is-being-filmed-he-trying-to-shoot-me/)** > > An Arkansas police officer has been accused of wrongly pulling his firearm on an unarmed man.Edrick Truitt told WREQ that the incident occurred early Sunday morning Double Quick store. Truitt said that he was meeting family when another car pulled in... The video is towards the bottom. The guy filming is much more calm than the cop is, even though the cop is pointing a gun in his face the whole time. The cop tells him to shut the car off and also tells him not to move those hands – the guy filming rightly just keeps his hands in the air to avoid getting shot. Then, he gets arrested for not complying with a lawful order – which one? Don’t move those hands? Turn the car off? How could he do both? The cop tells the driver to get out of the car, but it’s still in drive – what’s he supposed to do? At one point, the cop yells “Gun!” as though the gun were putting him in danger. However, it was in the back seat, lawful, and registered to the driver. And, you can open carry in Arkansas without a permit anyway, so why is the cop surprised to see a gun? It really looked like he was itching to shoot that driver, but admittedly, that’s my own editorial slant. People have said it before here, but it seems like civilians are expected to treat cops like they are wild animals – move slowly, take all responsibility for de-escalating. That’s just what this driver did, of course. Smart man! That may be why he’s still alive. So, who is going to defend the behavior of this cop? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=737) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=739)