# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 744
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14863 "2019-06-19T17:37:42Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > Guns drawn, threatening to shoot a pregnant mother holding her child, Arizona cops dislocate a 1-year-old’s arm. [Over a Barbie doll](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/watch-arizona-cops-terrorize-black-family-at-gunpoint-after-4-year-old-takes-barbie-doll-from-dollar-store/). Quote from the “professional” police officer, dealing with a 4 year old shoplifter: “I”m going to put a f_cking cap right in your f_cking head! Get your f\*cking hands up! These are words from a gangster. This sounds like some kind of wanna-be criminal scumbag speaking. This is not normal. This person needs to be fired before he kills someone by acting like a criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14864 "2019-06-19T20:42:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Quote from the “professional” police officer, dealing with a 4 year old shoplifter: > > “I”m going to put a f_cking cap right in your f_cking head! Get your f\*cking hands up! > > These are words from a gangster. This sounds like some kind of wanna-be criminal scumbag speaking. This is not normal. This person needs to be fired before he kills someone by acting like a criminal. Send him off to Area 51 with the proper security clearance. Their perimeter guards evidently like that sort of behavior and this would get him away from the general public. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14865 "2019-06-20T21:03:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Quote from the “professional” police officer, dealing with a 4 year old shoplifter: > > “I”m going to put a f_cking cap right in your f_cking head! Get your f\*cking hands up! > > These are words from a gangster. This sounds like some kind of wanna-be criminal scumbag speaking. This is not normal. This person needs to be fired before he kills someone by acting like a criminal. Guy seems to have [a history](https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/man-says-phoenix-cop-christopher-meyer-attack-family-video-11315264) of harassing people and lying about it in his reports. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14866 "2019-06-20T22:41:19Z")
[South Carolina’s Finest](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/south-carolina-deputy-in-clayton-county-jail-after-firing-several-shots-during-road-rage-incident/ar-AADaVq1) > [@](#): > > A South Carolina deputy was taken into custody Wednesday after an intense road rage incident on Interstate 75 south. > > Johnnie Bryant, a deputy with the the Hampton County Sheriff’s Office in South Carolina, fired seven shots into another vehicle on I-75 south – north of Tara Boulevard, according to the Clayton County Sheriff’s Office. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14867 "2019-06-22T01:17:42Z")
I think we’re going to start to see more of this: > [@](#): > > Someone on Tuesday threatened to kill Cuyahoga County Jail officers if another inmate died. > > The threat was called into the jail Tuesday to the warden’s office, according to the corrections officers union and a document obtained by [cleveland.com](http://cleveland.com). > > \ > > The caller said that if another inmate died, a sniper would shoot officers as they left the downtown Cleveland jail, according to the document. > **[Someone threatened to kill Cuyahoga County Jail officers if another inmate dies](https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/06/someone-threatened-to-kill-cuyahoga-county-jail-officers-if-another-inmate-dies.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true)** > > Someone threatened to shoot Cuyahoga County corrections officers if another inmate died in the jail. Eight inmates died in 2018 and one died in 2019. Like the Second Amendment fundamentalists are always telling us, we need guns to protect ourselves from government tyranny. Does that apply to the people who are actually being murdered by police, or only to people opposed to single payer health care? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14868 "2019-06-22T01:49:20Z")
The only government tyranny they care about is “taking my guns” ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14869 "2019-06-23T23:38:58Z")
…[this man](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Metro-Transit-Police-Opens-Internal-Investigation-After-Video-Shows-Officer-Taser-Man-511703281.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand) was tasered because he “exhibited behavior consistent with preparing to fight the officer.” He didn’t actually fight the officer. It was just “consistent with” how people prepare to fight", whatever the fuck that means. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14870 "2019-06-24T00:02:15Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …[this man](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Metro-Transit-Police-Opens-Internal-Investigation-After-Video-Shows-Officer-Taser-Man-511703281.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand) was tasered because he “exhibited behavior consistent with preparing to fight the officer.” He didn’t actually fight the officer. It was just “consistent with” how people prepare to fight", whatever the fuck that means. Pretty sure that behavior was “being black” ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14871 "2019-06-24T00:37:06Z")
…just listening to the women recording the video imploring the man to “just get down” and submit. Begging for him to take action so that he doesn’t get shot. I found that seriously distressing. That this is the way it has to be now. Cameras out. Submission. Its terrifying. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14872 "2019-06-24T16:54:23Z")
Kind of reminds me of the XKCD (can’t locate it) charting the number of people carrying a camera their entire waking lives (approaching 100%) and the images of cryptids captured (flat, near zero) only the second’s police caught inflicting egregious violence and it’s rising in step with the first. How much did they get away with before? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14873 "2019-06-24T18:09:19Z")
[Autopsy: Multiple wounds killed naked teen shot by police](https://apnews.com/14bb3aceba50434abae30043b9485082). > [@](#): > > A preliminary autopsy report says an unarmed, black teenager who was naked when suburban Oklahoma City police shot him died of multiple gunshot wounds. > > The report released Monday doesn’t specify how many times Edmond police shot 17-year-old Isaiah Lewis ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14874 "2019-06-25T21:41:04Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Talk about giving someone the benefit of doubt. This guy murdered one and seriously injured two others and he gets to walk away for now. If that Costco video doesn’t show all three attacking him, he better land in prison for a long time. :mad: This has been really quiet. I don’t like that. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14875 "2019-06-25T21:59:26Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > This has been really quiet. I don’t like that. Kenneth French’s parents, Russell and Paola, are both awake and aware their son was killed. That’s about all the new information I found tho. > [@](#): > > Corona police continue to investigate the case, and no arrests have been made. > **[Costco shooting: Wounded parents learn their son is dead. ‘They are devastated’](https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-costco-shooting-parents-lapd-20190624-story.html)** > > The parents who were critically wounded when an LAPD officer opened fire at a Costco earlier this month are beginning to recover and have been told that their son was killed in the shooting. From this bit: > [@](#): > > “He was shopping with his wife and 1½-year-old at Costco. His son was in his arms, and he was feeding his son some samples when, within seconds, he was on the ground and woke up from being unconscious and he was fighting for his life,” Winslow said. Okay; I’m very skeptical of this story. There better be video that shows him being beaten while he was unconscious or something similar because this does not make any sense. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14876 "2019-06-25T23:01:21Z")
[Patient given the clear to take a walk with his IV is arrested for stealing IV](https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/man-following-doctor-s-orders-to-walk-around-hospital-arrested-for-stealing-iv-FYad0bj-fk-An-K4ob3SEQ/) ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14877 "2019-06-26T01:42:44Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Kenneth French’s parents, Russell and Paola, are both awake and aware their son was killed. That’s about all the new information I found tho. > > [Costco shooting: Wounded parents learn their son is dead. ‘They are devastated’](https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-costco-shooting-parents-lapd-20190624-story.html) > > From this bit:Okay; I’m very skeptical of this story. There better be video that shows him being beaten while he was unconscious or something similar because this does not make any sense. It is so good to know that Corona police have not arrested a killer from their own department. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14878 "2019-06-26T01:48:48Z")
That seems legit. Whenever you are scared about anything, you should immediately shoot the thing scaring you. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14879 "2019-06-27T23:45:24Z")
[Well hello, Texas!](https://apnews.com/0c369915808b46ebbf7ebbd79fc3231b) > [@](#): > > A Texas police officer has been indicted on a murder charge two weeks after shooting the unarmed driver of a truck that had been reported stolen as the vehicle swerved past his police SUV in a Dallas parking lot. > > Farmers Branch Officer Michael Dunn, 43, turned himself in Wednesday night after a grand jury returned the unusually swift indictment in the killing of 35-year-old Juan Moreno, officials said Thursday. > > On June 12, police in suburban Farmers Branch spotted a white pickup that had been reported stolen from the city of Irving. Dunn followed the vehicle over the Dallas city line to a shopping center and opened fire as Moreno was pulling out of the parking lot, police said. Surveillance video appears to show Dunn firing into the driver’s side of the truck as it makes a sweeping turn around his cruiser. Local story includes the surveillance videos: [Videos show moment Farmers Branch officer shoots driver in truck reported stolen | wfaa.com](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/videos-show-moment-farmers-branch-officer-shoots-driver-in-truck-reported-stolen/287-2282879b-d97c-4356-b46a-73d7c375dcd9) So now let’s see how the trial goes. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14880 "2019-06-28T14:11:37Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > It is so good to know that Corona police have not arrested a killer from their own department. It’s been two weeks and it doesn’t appear anything has come out yet. It’s taking a long time to figure out how to coverup this murder. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14881 "2019-06-28T14:22:49Z")
I find it kind of strange that no reporter has interviewed the two survivors yet. I can’t believe I’m the only person interested in their account of the incident. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/14882 "2019-06-28T14:26:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I find it kind of strange that no reporter has interviewed the two survivors yet. I can’t believe I’m the only person interested in their account of the incident. If it were me, I would consult a lawyer and NOT talk to reporters. But I realize a lot of people find it impossible to resist talking to reporters. But you would think there would be some kind of followup to the incident (not that I have looked). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=743) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=745)