# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 753
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15043 "2019-08-16T18:17:46Z")
[quote=“PastTense, post:15042, topic:700942”] Here is the full video of the Bailey shooting: [/QUOTE] At 11:11, he’s pretty clearly reaching into his waistband for something, and it turns out that he did have a gun. He’s also pretty clearly trying to run away. Without more information, I’d conclude that a stupid, frightened kid was just trying to get away, but he did the worst thing he could possibly do by reaching for his gun. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15044 "2019-08-16T18:28:14Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Last night a guard at an ICE prison in Rhode Island drove his truck into a group of protesters. Fortunately no one was seriously injured. > > [https://twitter.com/lachancenaomi/status/1161983453182799873?s=19](https://twitter.com/lachancenaomi/status/1161983453182799873?s=19) > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > ^ Unfortunately the jerk wasn’t arrested. Nor were his pepper-spraying friends. I wonder why? And today, Lou Dobbs says the man (Captain Thomas Woodworth, since placed on administrative leave) [was within his rights to drive through those protesters](https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/08/16/lou-dobbs-guard-who-drove-into-ice-protesters-was-within-his-rights/). The guard’s actions and Lou Dobbs’ comments remind me that not too long ago, quite a few people were saying that they thought anyone should be allowed to drive through protesters if they were blocking a road. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15045 "2019-08-16T18:40:32Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > And today, Lou Dobbs says the man (Captain Thomas Woodworth, since placed on administrative leave) [was within his rights to drive through those protesters](https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/08/16/lou-dobbs-guard-who-drove-into-ice-protesters-was-within-his-rights/). The guard’s actions and Lou Dobbs’ comments remind me that not too long ago, quite a few people were saying that they thought anyone should be allowed to drive through protesters if they were blocking a road. And it was evidently not big enough a deal, despite at least one elderly protester getting a broken leg from the collision, for the [local police to take statements](https://time.com/5653413/truck-rams-into-ice-protesters/). > [@](#): > > Regunberg alleges local police refused to take witness statements on the scene, despite protesters “clamoring, asking, demanding,” to give them. The Central Falls Police Department did not immediately respond to a phone call for comment, but a spokesman with the Rhode Island State Police, which has now taken over the investigation, says he was “not aware” of any officers not taking statements. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15046 "2019-08-17T00:03:11Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > And it was evidently not big enough a deal, despite at least one elderly protester getting a broken leg from the collision, for the [local police to take statements](https://time.com/5653413/truck-rams-into-ice-protesters/). They’re covering it on MSNBC tonight. Ali Velshi (sp?) is subbing for Chris Hayes and it’s one of their stories. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15047 "2019-08-17T00:34:00Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > They’re covering it on MSNBC tonight. Ali Velshi (sp?) is subbing for Chris Hayes and it’s one of their stories. Story up next. Ali’s lead in is that the officer has resigned. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15048 "2019-08-17T00:47:44Z")
If protestors blocked my way to work I’d be pissed. I’d call the cops. I’d hope that they’d make the people disperse and arrest any who failed to do so. But for crying out loud, running your vehicle into them? That’s insane. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15049 "2019-08-17T01:06:18Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If protestors blocked my way to work I’d be pissed. I’d call the cops. I’d hope that they’d make the people disperse and arrest any who failed to do so. But for crying out loud, running your vehicle into them? That’s insane. Peaceful protest is a right in this country. Protest is \*supposed \*to inconvenience people. That’s how you help bring attention to problems that need fixing. The protesters were doing _nothing wrong_. They were just sitting there. Yes, blocking the entrance to the employee parking lot, but parking in a lot ain’t a right, it’s a privilege. Not only that, but there was no need to call the cops because the local police were _already on the scene_, and had been for a while. The police officers at the scene did nothing. They didn’t try to make the protestors move or try to arrest them. Sadly, they also did not apprehend the corrections officer nor did they take witness statements after the assault. And that last is a very troubling failure on their part. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15050 "2019-08-19T16:57:27Z")
[Pantaleo fired](https://apnews.com/e5f8f5020d914bb5a496152b0705d2ee?utm_source=PushNotification). Finally! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15051 "2019-08-19T17:06:00Z")
Good call by the NYC police commissioner. It won’t bring Mr. Garner back, but at least a cop who behaved recklessly is no longer a menace. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15052 "2019-08-19T17:21:42Z")
Lets not celebrate just yet. I’m sure that the police union will decry this unduly harsh and unfair decision. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15053 "2019-08-19T17:52:00Z")
And if the decision is upheld, the officer will just be hired by another Department. Maybe New Jersey? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15054 "2019-08-19T19:47:02Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Good call by the NYC police commissioner. It won’t bring Mr. Garner back, but at least a cop who behaved recklessly is no longer a menace. The union will try to get him reinstated I bet. Or, he’ll just jump to a different police force. ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15055 "2019-08-23T00:05:56Z")
Ohio officer accused of filming himself urinating on girl waiting for school bus A Cleveland Police Officer has been charged with attempted kidnapping and multiple sexual offenses involving a 12-year-old girl, prosecutors said. > **[Ohio officer accused of urinating on girl waiting for school bus, filming act](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/22/ohio-police-officer-filmed-himself-urinating-12-year-old-girl-prosecutor-says/2081834001/)** > > A Cleveland Police Officer has been charged with attempted kidnapping and multiple sexual offenses involving a 12-year-old girl, prosecutors said. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15056 "2019-08-23T16:16:59Z")
> **[Opinion: Jay-Z Can't Roc With The NFL Unless Kaepernick Gets A Seat At The Table](https://www.npr.org/2019/08/22/753387025/jay-z-roc-nation-nfl-partnership-colin-kaepernick?utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR08-Zm9Wc11_s0yIMIdJHHlf0QXVg2wKyQKKOjOW-4FqTD3NhXUEL6_HlU)** > > There's still room for Roc Nation's controversial NFL partnership to do impressive work — as long as the black billionaire behind it makes room for the struggle already in progress. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15057 "2019-08-23T18:07:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [Jay-Z Can't Roc With The NFL Unless Kaepernick Gets A Seat At The Table : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2019/08/22/753387025/jay-z-roc-nation-nfl-partnership-colin-kaepernick?utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR08-Zm9Wc11_s0yIMIdJHHlf0QXVg2wKyQKKOjOW-4FqTD3NhXUEL6_HlU) OK? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15058 "2019-08-23T18:08:19Z")
Controversial Encounters with Jay Z ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15059 "2019-08-23T19:52:56Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > Ohio officer accused of filming himself urinating on girl waiting for school bus > > A Cleveland Police Officer has been charged with attempted kidnapping and multiple sexual offenses involving a 12-year-old girl, prosecutors said. > > [Ohio police officer filmed himself urinating on 12-year-old girl, prosecutor says](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/22/ohio-police-officer-filmed-himself-urinating-12-year-old-girl-prosecutor-says/2081834001/) How the fuck was he STILL a cop by that time? Just waiting for our favorite cop sucker to come along and blame the little girl for being in the wrong place at the wrong time - or resisting - or something. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15060 "2019-08-23T21:06:00Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > How the fuck was he STILL a cop by that time? > > Just waiting for our favorite cop sucker to come along and blame the little girl for being in the wrong place at the wrong time - or resisting - or something. Do we know what she was wearing? I’ve heard that it’s a woman’s fault for being assaulted if they are wearing things that cause men to assault them. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15061 "2019-08-23T21:27:56Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > How the fuck was he STILL a cop by that time? > > Just waiting for our favorite cop sucker to come along and blame the little girl for being in the wrong place at the wrong time - or resisting - or something. And he just got [robbed](https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/burglary-reported-at-home-of-cleveland-police-officer-accused-of-urinating-on-12-year-old-girl). ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15062 "2019-08-24T01:29:12Z")
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