# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 782
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15623 "2019-12-16T02:46:50Z")
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15624 "2019-12-16T05:40:38Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > [LAPD officer under investigation for allegedly fondling dead woman’s breasts](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-03/lapd-officer-under-investigation-for-fondling-female-corpse) > > There really is no commentary I can add to this. > > From the [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/04/us/lapd-officer-fondle-corpse/index.html) story. > > I suppose it’s good to know that there is a limit to where the union won’t defend one of their own. I wonder if that twerp’s favorite movie is _Mother, Jugs & Speed_. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15625 "2019-12-16T06:03:49Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is via Twitter, and I don’t have a mainstream media source, but it looks pretty clear. Seattle cops are riding their bikes on the sidewalk, run into some guy from behind, then violently arrest the guy they ran into. [https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/1206051263282130944?s=19](https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/1206051263282130944?s=19) > > Also, a few days before that, Seattle cops are pushing a crowd back, using their bikes as barriers. Crowd seems to be complying. One cop trips over his own bike. Cops all start to flip out and attack the crowd. [https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1203883493224116225?s=19](https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1203883493224116225?s=19) > > Ya know, I’m beginning to think most of our cops are just skittish, heavily armed thugs. How many times did shit like this happen before everyone was walking around with cameras in their pockets? I finally had a chance to watch these videos closer and on a larger screen. In the first one, I think _maybe_ the red backpack guy pushed at the cop on the bike. It’s hard to see in the scrum, but when Idiot Cop pushes into Red Backpack, I think I see Red Backpack’s right leg move and plant as though he’s pushing or swinging at the stupid ass who just ran into him with a bike on the sidewalk. This in no way justifies the cops. First of all, why the fuck are they riding on the sidewalk and ramming pedestrians from behind? And second, the cops need to defuse situations like this rather than escalate them. But, assuming Idiot Cop is a poorly-educated, poorly-trained bully (a safe assumption, I think) I kinda see how the situation progressed. The cops are goons, but there’s a sort of narrative coherence to it. That second video, though… what the fuck? A cop, who is nowhere near any protestor, and is in fact separated from the protestors by one row of cops, trips over his bike. Then, he rushes past the front line of cops to waylay a protestor for no reason I can make out. The cops in the front lines seem briefly surprised that Klumsy Kop is attacking, then they join in, because everybody loves a beatdown I guess? As an aside, is it standard practice for cops to use bicycles as crowd control devices? A bike seems like a pretty poor crowd control device. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15626 "2019-12-16T09:53:21Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is via Twitter, and I don’t have a mainstream media source, but it looks pretty clear. Seattle cops are riding their bikes on the sidewalk, run into some guy from behind, then violently arrest the guy they ran into. [https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/1206051263282130944?s=19](https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/1206051263282130944?s=19) Is it possible they were in pursuit of the guy with the backpack, and wanted to arrest him based on probable cause of a crime? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15627 "2019-12-16T15:07:19Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Is it possible they were in pursuit of the guy with the backpack, and wanted to arrest him based on probable cause of a crime? If that were true, was this approach the best method to apprehend him? I know they teach to ram fleeing cars in certain situations, but do they also teach “ram people from behind with your bike”? If so, they need to get this training protocol published so they don’t appear to complete tools like they do in this video. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15628 "2019-12-16T17:42:11Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > As an aside, is it standard practice for cops to use bicycles as crowd control devices? A bike seems like a pretty poor crowd control device. Bicycles are considered [an effective form of crowd control](https://www.policemag.com/511059/bicycles-for-crowd-control). ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15629 "2019-12-16T18:05:19Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Bicycles are considered [an effective form of crowd control](https://www.policemag.com/511059/bicycles-for-crowd-control). Huh. I’ll be damned. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15630 "2019-12-16T22:04:19Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Is it possible they were in pursuit of the guy with the backpack, and wanted to arrest him based on probable cause of a crime? Further down the comment chain is a longer video that shows the lead up to everything. Nothing makes any sense in any of it. But don’t worry, the police are investigating! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15631 "2019-12-17T04:03:52Z")
The North Carolina cop who body slammed that kid twice, has been fired. May still be facing criminal charges. Article and video: > **[North Carolina Deputy Fired After Video Shows Him Body-Slamming Middle Schooler](https://reason.com/2019/12/16/north-carolina-deputy-fired-after-video-shows-him-body-slamming-middle-schooler/)** > > The deputy now faces possible criminal charges. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15632 "2019-12-17T04:15:23Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > The North Carolina cop who body slammed that kid twice, has been fired. May still be facing criminal charges. Article and video: > > [North Carolina Deputy Fired After Video Shows Him Body-Slamming Middle Schooler](https://reason.com/2019/12/16/north-carolina-deputy-fired-after-video-shows-him-body-slamming-middle-schooler/) Why has the goon’s name not been released? Don’t we usually get to know the names of suspects in violent crimes, unless they’re a minor? Why are reporters not combing through his social media and his entire life history to find every thing he’s ever done wrong? I mean, it’s only fair. When the cops kills a guy, it’s inevitable that we get the pictures of the guy looking scary, or we hear about his past run-ins with the law, or we find out that he had Motrin in his bloodstream or whatever. I want to know everything this cop has ever done wrong _in his entire fucking life_. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15633 "2019-12-17T05:25:50Z")
New York Police Sergeants Benevolent Association president Ed Mullins blames Tessa Majors’s death on her by claiming that she was in the park where she was murdered in order to buy marijuana. > **[Slain Barnard student's family blasts police union head over marijuana comment](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tessa-majors-barnard-murder-slain-students-family-blasts-police-union-head-over-marijuana-comment-today-2019-12-16/)** > > The family of Tessa Majors said the comments blame the young woman "intentionally or unintentionally" for her own murder. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15634 "2019-12-17T07:19:11Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > This is via Twitter, and I don’t have a mainstream media source, but it looks pretty clear. Seattle cops are riding their bikes on the sidewalk, run into some guy from behind, then violently arrest the guy they ran into. [https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/1206051263282130944?s=19](https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/1206051263282130944?s=19) > > Also, a few days before that, Seattle cops are pushing a crowd back, using their bikes as barriers. Crowd seems to be complying. One cop trips over his own bike. Cops all start to flip out and attack the crowd. [https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1203883493224116225?s=19](https://twitter.com/spekulation/status/1203883493224116225?s=19) > > Ya know, I’m beginning to think most of our cops are just skittish, heavily armed thugs. How many times did shit like this happen before everyone was walking around with cameras in their pockets? Remember, these are **Seattle** police. They are the scum of the profession. Twenty years ago this month, there was a WTO thing happened in Seattle that got a lot of press for several days. Since that little bit of ugliness, they have just gotten worse. On May Day of any given year, when there is an impromptu march in the city, they show up armed to the teeth with large sticks and riot gear, often outnumbering the marchers, and look for the slightest excuse to turn the march into a melee. They are quite simply assholes. If you ever go to downtown Seattle, park as close as you can to where you have to go and spend as little time as possible between your car and that place, because the guys there who are paid to fight crime can be worse than the actual criminals. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15635 "2019-12-17T19:03:51Z")
A Pike County Ohio sheriff’s deputy pepper sprayed a man who was strapped into a restraint chair, then punched the defenseless man in the face eleven times. The deputy subsequently filed a workmans compensation claim for a broken hand. > **[Pike County sheriff’s deputy accused of restraining, beating suspect resigns...](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/12/17/pike-county-ohio-sheriff-deputy-resigns-jeremy-mooney/2673253001/)** > > Deputy Jeremy Mooney resigned right before he was to be fired as a result of an investigation that included video of the incident. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15636 "2019-12-17T19:15:40Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > The deputy subsequently filed a workmans compensation claim for a broken hand. That’s just straight up evil. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15637 "2019-12-17T21:34:29Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Is it possible they were in pursuit of the guy with the backpack, and wanted to arrest him based on probable cause of a crime? I don’t think so. No. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15638 "2019-12-17T21:36:06Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > That’s just straight up evil. It’s fucked up, is what it is. He should be facing charges. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15639 "2019-12-19T16:56:46Z")
[A deputy burglarized grieving families’ homes during funerals, officials say.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-deputy-burglarized-grieving-families-homes-during-funerals-officials-say-then-her-co-workers-recognized-her/ar-BBY9egd) > [@](#): > > Authorities say that Janelle Gericke, who worked as a corrections officer at the Jefferson County Jail until July, scoured obituaries for funeral times and targeted the homes of grieving family members while they were attending memorial services. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15640 "2019-12-20T07:10:09Z")
Wisconsin deputy burglarized grieving families’ homes during funerals [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Wisconsin-deputy-burglarized-grieving-families-14917961.php](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Wisconsin-deputy-burglarized-grieving-families-14917961.php) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15641 "2019-12-20T08:17:27Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > A Pike County Ohio sheriff’s deputy pepper sprayed a man who was strapped into a restraint chair, then punched the defenseless man in the face eleven times. The deputy subsequently filed a workmans compensation claim for a broken hand. > > [Pike County sheriff’s deputy resigns after beating inmate on video](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/12/17/pike-county-ohio-sheriff-deputy-resigns-jeremy-mooney/2673253001/) Oh, Pike County. What a surprise. The deputy’s boss, the Pike County Sheriff, is currently suspended from office due to being indicted for [theft in office](https://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20190628/pike-county-grand-jury-indicts-sheriff-charles-reader) and some other crimes. Another recent Pike County deputy is [in prison for manslaughter](https://www.chillicothegazette.com/story/news/crime/2017/12/01/former-pike-county-deputy-joel-jenkins-sentenced-3-5-years-prison/914413001/). (This is not a large force.) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/15642 "2019-12-21T00:03:44Z")
The Fort Worth cop who shot Atatiana Jefferson in her own house has been charged with murder. > **[Former Fort Worth officer indicted in Atatiana Jefferson's shooting death | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/20/us/atatiana-jefferson-death-officer-indicted/index.html)** > > A Texas grand jury has indicted a former Fort Worth police officer who two months ago fired through the window of a home, killing Atatiana Jefferson. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=781) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=783)