# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1641 "2015-04-11T13:29:25Z")
> [@OwnRules](#): > > Please explain like I’m 12 y.o. kid. Go ask your mom, the adults are talking. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1642 "2015-04-11T14:32:08Z")
Seems they are about to bury Scott today. I wonder if the kids he owes 18 grand to in back child support will be there to grieve him? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1643 "2015-04-11T14:34:36Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Fortunately for **get lives** , being a complete idiot isn’t a hanging offense nowadays either. > > Regards, > Shodan If it was, I think **get lives** and most his family would probably be doing the old west “rope dance.” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1644 "2015-04-11T14:40:08Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > This is at least the second example in this thread of police unsuccessfully attempting to cover-up their misdeeds by failing to delete a video. > > [Video Of Teen’s Brutal Assault Goes Viral After Cops Try To Delete It And Fail (VIDEO)](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/10/video-of-teens-brutal-assault-goes-viral-after-cops-try-to-delete-it-and-fail-video/) IANAL so don’t know if broken taillight is a class 2 felony, or just class 3, but I’m sure the druggie slut and her accomplice got what they had coming. And restoring a dangerous video that law enforcement deleted? That’s got to be a felony itself. Those drug-dealing criminals should consider themselves lucky they didn’t get shot; I’m sure if they’d been of a subhuman race like our “President” they would have been. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1645 "2015-04-11T14:58:46Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > How stupid. Are you both justifying what these cops did? If not, what’s your point? Wow, I’ll write it in crayon for you if that’s what it takes. The idiot horse thief is lucky he didn’t do this 100 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1646 "2015-04-11T15:44:44Z")
A side note to all: take a look at [Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement](http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/da/5b/3bda5b2a64112fca31ce7617f679015a.jpg), and consider where your post is on that scale. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1647 "2015-04-11T15:57:21Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Seems they are about to bury Scott today. I wonder if the kids he owes 18 grand to in back child support will be there to grieve him? Well, that killer cop won’t be able to support his children from prison, will he? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1648 "2015-04-11T16:30:05Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Seems they are about to bury Scott today. I wonder if the kids he owes 18 grand to in back child support will be there to grieve him? It’s good to know that you’ve got your priorities straight. I’ve always thought that summary execution was the appropriate penalty for child support violations. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1649 "2015-04-11T16:37:56Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Seems they are about to bury Scott today. I wonder if the kids he owes 18 grand to in back child support will be there to grieve him? Probably. News reports say he remained close to his children (who are now in their 20’s) despite his inability to make payments. Debtor’s prison (even for missed child support) is a bad idea. Scott ran from his murderer because he was afraid of going to jail for debt. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1650 "2015-04-11T16:56:15Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > IANAL so don’t know if broken taillight is a class 2 felony, or just class 3, but I’m sure the druggie slut and her accomplice got what they had coming. The video makes them come off like a couple of entitled brats who think they’re too special to have to obey the law. Who tells a cop to “shut up” when they’ve been pulled over and are being accused of a felony? Who responds to being arrested by threatening to sic his mommy on the cops? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1651 "2015-04-11T17:04:30Z")
[The Huey P. Newton Gun Club:](http://www.vice.com/read/huey-does-dallas-0000552-v22n1) > [@](#): > > On a warm fall day in South Dallas, ten revolutionaries dressed in kaffiyehs and ski masks jog the perimeter of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Park bellowing “No more pigs in our community!” Military discipline is in full effect as the joggers respond to two former Army Rangers in desert-camo brimmed hats with cries of “Sir, yes, sir!” The Huey P. Newton Gun Club is holding its regular Saturday fitness-training and self-defense class. Men in Che fatigues run with weight bags and roll around on the grass, knife-fighting one another with dull machetes. “I used to salute the fucking flag!” the cadets chant. “Now I use it for a rag!” > > “A knife changes the whole game,” one of the drill sergeants, who goes by the name Chief, explains, demonstrating how to perform a slash-and-stab maneuver on the torso of a wide-eyed girl in her 20s. A panhandler wanders up from the street. He is about to ask for spare change but then becomes interested. “What is this? Self-defense? That’s cool.” A pack of black bikers throw up their fists as they roar by. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1652 "2015-04-11T17:23:11Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It’s good to know that you’ve got your priorities straight. I’ve always thought that summary execution was the appropriate penalty for child support violations. :rolleyes: Wow, you’ve got quite an imagination. I was just commenting on what a dolt the dude was, not that he deserved to die. Perhaps you can show me where I said otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1653 "2015-04-11T17:28:33Z")
You don’t see how your sympathy for the dead guy is a little underwhelming? Not even a glimmer? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1654 "2015-04-11T17:31:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The video makes them come off like a couple of entitled brats who think they’re too special to have to obey the law. Who tells a cop to “shut up” when they’ve been pulled over and are being accused of a felony? Who responds to being arrested by threatening to sic his mommy on the cops? Your lack of unbiased comprehensive skills is showing; at no point in that video did the girl who was pulled over tell a cop to shut up. When you are ready to discuss reality, we’ll be here. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1655 "2015-04-11T17:32:23Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Wow, you’ve got quite an imagination. I was just commenting on what a dolt the dude was, not that he deserved to die. Perhaps you can show me where I said otherwise? You don’t have to say it. If someone is shot in the back five times (eight shots) by a police officer, and that same person has missed child support payments, it is pretty suggestive when the aspect of the case that you feel most compelled to comment on is the part about the missed child support. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1656 "2015-04-11T17:33:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Your lack of unbiased comprehensive skills is showing; at no point in that video did anyone tell a cop to shut up. 17 seconds in. And while we’re at it, would you explain when it became a requirement that the cops get parental consent to arrest a minor? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1657 "2015-04-11T17:41:54Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > This is at least the second example in this thread of police unsuccessfully attempting to cover-up their misdeeds by failing to delete a video. > > [Video Of Teen’s Brutal Assault Goes Viral After Cops Try To Delete It And Fail (VIDEO)](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/10/video-of-teens-brutal-assault-goes-viral-after-cops-try-to-delete-it-and-fail-video/) I have one question about that video: how old was the guy in the back seat? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1658 "2015-04-11T17:42:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The video makes them come off like a couple of entitled brats who think they’re too special to have to obey the law. I agree. American culture has gone haywire. But rather than cops blaming their victims, and citizens blaming cops, isn’t it time to get together and root for progress? Try to get America to slow its descent into a maelstrom of insanity? Good first steps would be (1) stop tasering non-threatening citizens, (2) reject the growing insanity of America’s gun culture. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1659 "2015-04-11T17:45:16Z")
Perhaps there is a middle ground between a minor demanding that his mother be present, and that minor instead tossing the cop’s salad, like smapti would have done. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1660 "2015-04-11T17:45:33Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > stop tasering non-threatening citizens I suppose we could always go back to beating them with sticks like cops did in our daddy’s day. > [@](#): > > reject the growing insanity of America’s gun culture. I can get on board with that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942.md?page=84)