# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 10, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942 "2014-10-10T07:35:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1921 "2015-04-21T19:00:06Z")

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In a country with some 30-40 million black people, it would be surprising if a month passed _without_ at least one being shot by police.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1922 "2015-04-21T19:45:51Z")

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> [@OwnRules](#):
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> I believe the picture linked to is self-explanatory.
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> If not, what, exactly, would you like me to explain?

How about what the fuck your link is about and what do you think of it?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1923 "2015-04-21T19:47:26Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In a country with some 30-40 million black people, it would be surprising if a month passed _without_ at least one being shot by police.

Well, there ya go then.

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1924 "2015-04-21T20:00:09Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> How about what the fuck your link is about and what do you think of it?

Someone piss on your cornflakes?

Again, it is **obviously** self-explanatory. As for what I think about it, it’s a graphic depiction of the arguments made in this thread vis-a-vis police prejudice against black.

Fuckin’ happy now?

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1925 "2015-04-21T20:30:28Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> [FBI admits to misrepresenting forensic hair evidence](http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fbi-overstated-forensic-hair-matches-in-nearly-all-criminal-trials-for-decades/2015/04/18/39c8d8c6-e515-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html)

Uhhhh… this deserves it’s own thread…

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1926 "2015-04-21T20:38:05Z")

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…police officer takes exception to being filmed. Charges then destroys the cellphone in question.

> **[Woman Pointing Smartphone Camera at Police Has It Snatched and Smashed](https://petapixel.com/2015/04/21/woman-pointing-smartphone-camera-at-police-has-it-snatched-and-smashed/)**
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> Here's a video that's causing an uproar among those who care about photographers' rights. It's a 53-second clip recorded on April 19th that shows an

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1927 "2015-04-21T20:44:30Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Did you hear about the guy who posted a link with no comment?

What comment is needed? **OwnRules** probably would not have posted the link if he did not support its message.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1928 "2015-04-21T21:26:11Z")

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> [@OwnRules](#):
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> **[Did you hear about the black man killed by police this month?](https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11127444_964087533625728_7344809720260837488_n.jpg?oh=59d08d40e81d660fc264f9e234e2efc0&oe=55A18967)**

Thanks for the link. Posted it to my Facebook page.

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1929 "2015-04-21T21:53:41Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In a country with some 30-40 million black people, it would be surprising if a month passed _without_ at least one being shot by police.

It shouldn’t be. The UK has more people than that and commonly goes a whole year without killing anyone.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1930 "2015-04-21T22:15:07Z")

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> [@amarone](#):
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> It shouldn’t be. The UK has more people than that and commonly goes a whole year without killing anyone.

In Smaptiland, that’s a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1931 "2015-04-21T23:05:08Z")

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[https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11127444\_964087533625728\_7344809720260837488\_n.jpg?oh=59d08d40e81d660fc264f9e234e2efc0&oe=55A18967](https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11127444_964087533625728_7344809720260837488_n.jpg?oh=59d08d40e81d660fc264f9e234e2efc0&oe=55A18967)

That’s a lot like the actual conversations after watching the morning news.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1932 "2015-04-21T23:19:32Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> In Smaptiland, that’s a bad thing.

In the real world, UK citizens don’t have a constitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1933 "2015-04-21T23:29:02Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In the real world, UK citizens don’t have a constitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms.

And so their police force doesn’t gun down unarmed citizens because reasons.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1934 "2015-04-21T23:31:58Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In the real world, UK citizens don’t have a constitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms.

Then maybe Americans shouldn’t have one either. Going by results, you know.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1935 "2015-04-21T23:43:12Z")

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> [@OwnRules](#):
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> **[Did you hear about the black man killed by police this month?](https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11127444_964087533625728_7344809720260837488_n.jpg?oh=59d08d40e81d660fc264f9e234e2efc0&oe=55A18967)**

> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> [https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11127444\_964087533625728\_7344809720260837488\_n.jpg?oh=59d08d40e81d660fc264f9e234e2efc0&oe=55A18967](https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11127444_964087533625728_7344809720260837488_n.jpg?oh=59d08d40e81d660fc264f9e234e2efc0&oe=55A18967)
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> That’s a lot like the actual conversations after watching the morning news.

same image

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1936 "2015-04-21T23:57:32Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Then maybe Americans shouldn’t have one either.

100% agreed.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1937 "2015-04-22T00:49:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In a country with some 30-40 million black people, it would be surprising if a month passed _without_ at least one being shot by police.

A month? Try a day: [Police Killings in America, Day By Day | by Matter | Matter | Medium](https://medium.com/matter/january-10-was-probably-the-only-day-in-2015-that-no-one-was-killed-by-cops-a6d61fcf804)

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1938 "2015-04-22T01:02:40Z")

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Do those killings count towards the 40 homicides each day in the US? Or is that on top of the good old fashioned cold blooded murder?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1939 "2015-04-22T02:19:14Z")

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Probably not, murders are committed by _criminals_, not the city’s finest.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread/700942/1940 "2015-04-22T13:58:07Z")

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[Police try to make an arrest at the wrong house, let the dog out, then try to shoot the dog on a crowded Brooklyn sidewalk](http://7online.com/news/caught-on-camera-officer-shoots-at-dog-in-crowd-of-people-during-arrest-in-brooklyn/666840/).

It would be somewhat of a farce if it didn’t happen so depressingly often. [Cops respond to the wrong house and kill the service dog of a downs syndrome kid in March](http://thefreethoughtproject.com/community-mourning-officer-kills-service-dog-worked-children-syndrome/), [they shot a dog at the wrong house in Michigan last October](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/dog-shot-police-suit/16904333/), [shot a dog at the wrong house when going after an expired vehicle registration](http://www.naturalnews.com/041055_police_officers_family_dog_fatal_shooting.html) and [hold 6 kids at gunpoint and shoot their dog at the wrong house](http://www.policebrutality.info/2013/03/cops-raid-wrong-house-threaten-children-and-kill-their-dog.html), both in 2013.

sigh.

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