The problem, ** Muffin**, is a lot of people don’t think what you’re saying is a bad thing, or they just don’t care.
One thing I don’t get is, for a country that loves to jerk itself off about the Second Amendment and “fighting tyranny,” people sure do love they’re authority figures. “He should’ve just complied with conflictions orders faster.”
It’s not really a matter of the Right to Bear Guns being part of the Constitution or of some other legal document; the issue is that so many people see their guns as a symbol of every other right, or even as their main right.
When NRA members fantasize about using their guns it’s to fight off hordes of drug crazed negroes high on crack and hip hop; a black guy being stopped by the police is already threatening to them because he’s black.
No evidence, just speculation, but given the prolictivities of the police abusing those they are sworn to protect, I suspect that the officers were in the porcess of sexually harassing and groping her, when she mounted a weak defense that pissed them off enough to kill her.
For those who like to defend the police, and explain how to avoid situations where you get shot, this is a freebee for you. The take away, don’t call the cops if you have been burglarized, as they will harass and kill you for it.
The problem is that a lot of people don’t think Muffin is painting a particularly accurate portrait of the facts.
Its exactly what it purports to be at the start. Preaching… to the choir.
Which doesn’t make sense to me: ** Muffin** didn’t say anything that should be controversial. Our country does have an insanely high incarceration rate. Our police do shoot people at a high number. This country was founded on slavery. White people did create Jim Crow to try disenfranchise Black people. The only difference is a lot of American don’t really see a problem with any of these issues.
It isn’t controversial on the SDMB, but, as Damuri mentions, that’s because he is preaching to the choir.
He claims, among other things
and
The first is an assertion that people shoot police because they are or have been badly treated by the police. That is not the case - people generally shoot at the police because they are being arrested, or the police are otherwise interfering when those people want to commit crimes.
The second is even less reality-based - the notion that the police routinely shoot first and ask questions later is pretty straightforwardly ridiculous, anecdotes notwithstanding.
Which is fine - nobody expects rationality in the Pit, and preaching to the choir is what he intended anyway.
Regards,
Shodan
Except with Tamir Rice. Or Scott. Or Castille.
Do you know what the word “routinely” means?
Regards,
Shodan
Those are just the ones we know about because they were caught on video. Based on everything we’ve seen with how the police act after a shooting, I’m quite sure it is routine.
If it weren’t black youth wouldn’t get “the Talk.”
When the target is black.
If you do not consider that routine, then you are part of the problem.
Regards
Young daughter of Philando Castile’s fiancée Diamond Reynolds:
“I don’t want you to be shooted.
. . . .
I can keep you safe.
. . . .
I DON’T WANT YOU TO BE SHOOTED!
. . . .
I wish this town was safer.”
I watched that dashcam footage, and lost just about any desire to go back to the USA ever again. If that counts as reasonable fear, then there is no such thing as an unreasonable fear when it comes to opening fire on a suspect. Also, it’s quite reasonable to say that the “if you’re white” in the second amendment is silent but most certainly implied.
Having seen this video - yeah, this is pretty much inexcusable, and it’s disappointing that the jury ruled the way it did.
I went to Montreal last fall and had a lovely time. One thing I noticed was I wasn’t afraid of the police. Like seriously, I didn’t realize what it was until I was there a few days, but I noticed that I wasn’t worried while being around them.
I’ll take that as a No, then.
Regards,
Shodan
:eek:
WELL FUCK ME SIDEWAYS WITH A TIRE IRON.
In summary: Trained police officers are given a free pass to panic and start shooting while untrained civilians are expected to remain calm and cool with guns pointed at them.
hmmmmm . . .
That’s because the State is the New God.