Interesting, and can the LEO just request it at any time, or do they need some sort of probable cause first?
He didn’t seem to be interested in matching her gun serial against her permit, so I don’t think that that was what he was doing. In fact, if he had, and she was in a place that had that info on her permit, then that should have cleared it up quickly.
“The gun is stolen? If the gun is stolen, then why did they let me register it?”
Just wondering if cops can actually walk down the street, demanding papers on every gun they see. I assume that would get the 2nd amendment peoples upset. Especially if they started asking white people.
Note that this section of the law was amended quite recently; that sub-section (b) only dates back to 2014. (I think the $10.00 fine may also be from that same time.)
Also note that under current Georgia law, carrying a handgun requires a license whether the handgun is carried openly or concealed (it’s the same license, in fact). But a cop can’t detain you solely for the purpose of verifying that you have a license to openly carry a handgun.
I just looked up Tennessee (where the incident happened) carry laws and there it IS a “present on demand” jurisdiction. So the LEO could ask to check the permit upon spotting the carry. (Tennessee Code Sec. 39-17-1351, subheading (n)(1))
And the LEO can hold on to the weapon “at any time the officer reasonably believes it necessary for the protection of the permit holder, the officer or other individual”. (Subheading (u) )
There’s over 1.1 million police officers in the United States. You scour the internet to bring up a few stories about bad apples & want to throw out the whole bunch?
I bet your profession wishes they had as low of ratio of good apples to bad!
A big problem, as has been made clear on multiple occasions in this thread, is that, in far too many cases, the good apples don’t demonstrate any willingness to help get rid of the bad ones. They stand by while unprofessional and sometimes criminal acts are committed; they refuse to testify against officers who break the rules or the law; sometimes they outright lie to protect their fellow officers; and plenty of departments show themselves willing to retain or to hire officers who have demonstrated unacceptable behavior in the line of duty.
I’ve said a few times on this board, and i’ll say again, that i believe that most police are, in fact, good people genuinely trying to do their best under difficult circumstances. But as long as the bad apples continue to get a pass from the majority within the profession, including the top brass, then the whole profession suffers by association.
If we’re sticking with the apple analogies, one rotten apple can spoil the bunch. If they don’t want to be perceived as rotten, maybe the good apples should do more to get the bad ones out of the barrel.
Bit of advice-You may have named yourself “Hocus Pocus”, but real magicians do more than frantic hand-waving to fool people. Work on your patter, make your scenarios at least possible(if not probable), and your act may eventually become tolerable.
1: the bad apples in my career field usually get fired pretty quickly.
2: the bad apples inconvenience and/or annoy the people they interact with. They don’t leave people dying on the ground while they call their union reps.
A baltimore cop was just caught via his body camera of planting drugs on a suspect while other cops watched and did nothing. But wait, you will say, didn’t we already talk about this case? Isn’t this old news?