Wasn’t there a case awhile back when a plaintiff who had run from the police and subsequently been found in possession of narcotics asked a court to rule that running from the police is normal, and hence not grounds for a search?
Then cops who kill suspects for running should be prosecuted for homicide.
Yes, but bear encounters are different. Mountain lion encounters are almost never accidental, you encounter one because it has been stalking you, which is similar to police encounters. You encounter a bear because it was doing its own thing and you stumbled upon it. Except in really unusual situations.
Then you must calmly explain that you are, in fact, there for the hunting. Period.
Breathless headline:
Report confirms that police killed Natasha McKenna with her hands cuffed and legs shackled
Dear Jailers: Just because someone is a pain in the rear end and not cooperative, doesn’t mean you are justified in beating or torturing them with a taser when they cannot possibly hurt one of six burlies. I know you’re PO’d, but you’re also supposed to be a mature responsible adult. Act like it.
I was asked to comment on the previous post as I’ve used most of the equipment described. The big question I’m wondering is why the jailers were putting McKenna into the restraint chair. As far as I can tel, this wasn’t explained.
So I’m going to guess that it was for the usual reason which is that McKenna was hurting herself. If a person’s in full restraint, they really can’t hurt other people. But they can roll around and injure themselves. So you’ll strap a person who’s doing this into a restraint chair to immobilize them.
The same thing with using a taser. While it sounds violent, it is actually less likely to injure somebody than manhandling them is. A taser can temporarily immobilize a person, which makes it easy to lift them into a chair and strap them in without them struggling. Which in turn means there is less chance of anyone, including the prisoner, getting injured.
That said, tasering somebody four times seems like a bad idea. Tasering is one of those things that either works or it doesn’t. If the first three times didn’t work, why try it a fourth time? You need to keep your head about you in these situations and focus on the big picture as well as the immediate struggle. That means you have to stop doing something if it isn’t working or if it isn’t worth the struggle. BigAppleBucky is right when he said that you’re supposed to act like the mature responsible adult.
I don’t know the rank structure in Fairfax County but I’m going to assume the lieutenant was the guy in charge of the team of deputies. If so, he shouldn’t have been the one using the taser. He shouldn’t have been using any force himself at all. If you’re the guy in charge, you should be supervising not participating. Your job is to watch what the guy with the taser is doing while also watching how the prisoner is responding and keeping an eye on everyone else in the area. If you’re personally using a taser, you’re doing a deputy’s job rather than doing the lieutenant’s job.
Certainly. Find me a case where someone was shot for running, not just while running.
Shooting a violent criminal who can’t be restrained because he’s running is fine, if done to protect the public. Anyone, police or otherwise, is allowed to use force in self defence or the defence of others.
Protect the public from what? These are unarmed suspects, posing no immediate threat to anyone else.
If that’s the case, they shouldn’t be shot, and the police should be investigated for doing so.
Are you claiming that there’s never been a case where a policeman has shot someone who was a threat to others, or that they shouldn’t do so, they should allow innocents to be hurt?
Did I say that? We are talking about the cases that meet the criteria of this thread. Unarmed suspects, posing no immediate threat to anyone, who were subjected to inappropriate force by police without cause.
I can but hope that one day you’re on the receiving end of the education you feel other people need.
If it happens, it’ll probably be because I deserved it.
As you’re white, it probably won’t happen to you. Whether you deserve such an incident is a whole other question.
I love that a US Marshal was filmed by another bystander as he ripped the phone out of the hands of someone filming him. Welcome to a new era of accountability.
Follow up on the Grey case:
Man died of spinal injury after being arrested by Baltimore police
– bolding mine.
Bunch of ass-covering lies if you ask me.
Did you hear about the guy who posted a link with no comment?
I believe the picture linked to is self-explanatory.
If not, what, exactly, would you like me to explain?