# Controversial Movies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 9, 2006, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735 "2006-07-09T14:34:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/41 "2006-07-11T12:46:11Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> I’m a little confused here. Are you saying that the movie _JFK_ was not controversial when it was released? Because it was controversial here in the U.S., where many critics called it inaccurate and misleading.

I recall a cartoon wtih two characters standing under a theater marquee displaying “JFK” and “HOOK” – “One of them is an imaginary fantasy story about all sorts of impossible events; the other one is about Peter Pan.”

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/42 "2006-07-11T15:26:30Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> Excuse me, but are we related? 😉

I hope not because that would make last night _really_ akward…

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/43 "2006-07-11T15:32:13Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> Again:

You have a vested interest in this answer or something? Or did the OP appoint you ThreadGod?

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/44 "2006-07-11T15:34:58Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> What part of slipping a 10 year boy sleeping pills on a sleepover and raping him didn’t shock you?  
> Or, the teenager shooting his wad onto a railing, having his dog lick it up, and then go in the other room and lick the mom’s face?
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> I just heard about this Japanese movie called “Battle Royale” (in English) about a bunch of school kids that get kidnapped on an Island and have to murder each other. They tried to get it banned in Japan.
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> Apparently New Line Cinema has bought the rights to remake it.

Because I didn’t actually see those events occur? I don’t know… I mean I was suprised they put it in the movie but it in no way made me go :eek: .

Oh shit, you are kiding me? If they make it with OC/Laguna Beach type of stars I will be tempted to hurt myself and/or them. That movie is one of my favourite cult films and one of my top ten books. Where did you hear that they tried to get it banned? I’ve heard that rumour applying to America but never to Japan. It is the number eight movie of all time there, I can’t see there have been that much of a fuss about trying to ban it.

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/45 "2006-07-11T15:37:10Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> I can think of plenty of much more controversial films,

They seemed to only go with films that are known by the American masses. I would have put Salo or Man Bites Dog on the list.

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/46 "2006-07-11T15:42:14Z")

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> [@Necros](#):
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> The manga series is a little “ew” for my tastes.

Have you read them all? If you say just “Number 3” to my friends they will burst out laughing. That manga series is perhaps the worst I have ever read. The random (mostly sexual) parts included that weren’t even in the book were amazing. Next time you want to get the attention of a sports star, just piss on the floor! 😛

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/47 "2006-07-11T15:43:40Z")

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> [@Seymour Gams](#):
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> Because I didn’t actually see those events occur? I don’t know… I mean I was suprised they put it in the movie but it in no way made me go :eek: .
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> Oh shit, you are kiding me? If they make it with OC/Laguna Beach type of stars I will be tempted to hurt myself and/or them. That movie is one of my favourite cult films and one of my top ten books. Where did you hear that they tried to get it banned? I’ve heard that rumour applying to America but never to Japan. It is the number eight movie of all time there, I can’t see there have been that much of a fuss about trying to ban it.

> **[Lesson Plan: Kill or Be Killed (Published 2006)](https://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/movies/09ito.html)**
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> Is American ready for a remake of "Battle Royale," a violent and controversial Japanese movie about ninth graders murdering each other?

> [@article](#):
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> Criticized by Japanese politicians when it was first released in 2000, the movie became a huge hit at home and in much of Asia, spawning a popular manga series, inspiring a sequel and generating memorabilia from costumes to card games and action figures.

It doesn’t actually say they tried to get it banned. I was posting it from memory and my memory didn’t serve.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/48 "2006-07-11T15:45:34Z")

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> [@Seymour Gams](#):
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> Oh shit, you are kiding me? If they make it with OC/Laguna Beach type of stars I will be tempted to hurt myself and/or them. That movie is one of my favourite cult films and one of my top ten books. Where did you hear that they tried to get it banned? I’ve heard that rumour applying to America but never to Japan. It is the number eight movie of all time there, I can’t see there have been that much of a fuss about trying to ban it.

Oh, and I think making it with a bunch of OC/Laguna Beach type stars would be perfect casting.

A bunch of pretty, rich, spoiled California brats thrown into that kind of situation. . .perfect.

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/49 "2006-07-11T15:48:13Z")

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> [@Sublight](#):
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> Ok, then. _Battle Royale_ seemed pretty underwhelming when I saw it.
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> _Suicide Club_, on the other hand, definitely left an impression.

The Battle Royale movie is slightly more campy then the book and so the shock isn’t there as much. I agree, Suicide Club stays with you longer.

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**Author:** ![Seymour\_Gams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Seymour\_Gams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seymour_Gams)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/50 "2006-07-11T15:52:40Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> Oh, and I think making it with a bunch of OC/Laguna Beach type stars would be perfect casting.
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> A bunch of pretty, rich, spoiled California brats thrown into that kind of situation. . .perfect.

Well if we are going to use this movie just to enjoy seeing stars we hate getting killed off, let me throw Ashlee Simpson into the mix.

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-movies/363735/51 "2006-07-11T16:01:40Z")

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> [@Seymour Gams](#):
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> Well if we are going to use this movie just to enjoy seeing stars we hate getting killed off, let me throw Ashlee Simpson into the mix.

Well, I haven’t seen the movie but it sounds like a has some things to say about society and violence beyond just seeing pretty faces getting killed.

What better choice to explore that than the land of exploitative violence in movies and TV and phoney niceness about guns and animals and people in real life (stereotyping here) .

Stick the kids into a place where their figurative bleeding hearts come face-to-face with some literal bleeding hearts and see how they react.

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