# Convert or Die, the Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 13, 2006, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931 "2006-12-13T05:03:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/41 "2006-12-14T20:32:25Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing] I guess I’m not so offended by the idea that the game puts Muslims on the anti-Christian side…I mean, if the game divides everybody into “Christian vs. everybody else”, then obviously, like the game designer says, the Muslims are on the “everybody else” side. What’s more offensive, I think, is something the PC Gamer reviewer realized: [http://www.pcgamer.com/archives/2006/12/12106\_-\_the\_dif.html](http://www.pcgamer.com/archives/2006/12/12106_-_the_dif.html) [/QUOTE] I rather think that the idea of a “Christian v. everybody else” game is precisely what’s offensive. You might as well argue that the sexism you point out isn’t offensive. After all, if you’re going to have a game where men are naturally superior to women, then obviously, women are going to be pretty much useless in the game, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/42 "2006-12-15T02:52:19Z")
What, only Muslims? Not Mormons? (I KID, Monty, I KID - you know what the whacko-nutjobs are like.) Cheers, G ---
**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/43 "2006-12-15T03:11:06Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] I rather think that the idea of a “Christian v. everybody else” game is precisely what’s offensive. [/QUOTE] But the idea is that the “rapture” sucked away all the Christians, so then there’s just evil and not-as-evil battling for what’s left. The game takes place in a world minus all Christians. The player of the game is on the side of “oh my God, the Christians were right!” That’s just a nitpick. Still a terrible game concept. I doubt it will sell well. I hadn’t even heard of it prior to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/44 "2006-12-15T03:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=Gleena] What, only Muslims? Not Mormons? [/QUOTE] Oh, us Mormons definitely qualify, but probably we were all burned in one of the other tribulations or something. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/45 "2006-12-15T05:26:35Z")
[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies] Thus, the last Left Behind book – Glorious Appearing – concludes with the ultimate triumph of Jesus in a phantasmagorically gruesome holocaust. As predicted in Revelation, the savior returns to Earth, chides Satan for defiling the planet (and for inventing Darwinism), then proceeds to slaughter all unbelievers, dissolving their tongues and bursting their bodies like overstuffed sausages. As millions die in transports of agony, the ground becomes a swamp of blood and mud, and some extremely unpleasant things happen to the Jews who refuse to convert. As for the born-again? They stand around watching and cheering. [/QUOTE] Estuans interius ira vehementi Estuans interius ira vehementi JESUS CHRIST! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/46 "2006-12-15T05:30:12Z")
I’m just waiting for the next This Week In God on the Daily Show to cover this. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/47 "2006-12-15T05:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=Charger] But the idea is that the “rapture” sucked away all the Christians, so then there’s just evil and not-as-evil battling for what’s left. The game takes place in a world minus all Christians. The player of the game is on the side of “oh my God, the Christians were right!” That’s just a nitpick. Still a terrible game concept. I doubt it will sell well. I hadn’t even heard of it prior to this thread. [/QUOTE] Well, they are Christians, it’s just that they converted after the rapture. I think there could be a good Armageddon game, maybe with various religions duking it out. It could even have [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lel0PzhU6Pk) as the theme song (you can ignore the slideshow here, I just linked to it for the song). ---
**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/48 "2006-12-15T08:42:17Z")
We Muslims do believe in Jesus Christ…we however disagree that he was God incarnate or the Son of God or part of the Trinity or that he was crucified and came back after how many days. [Rodney King]_Can’t we all just get along?_[/RK] ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/49 "2006-12-15T16:51:02Z")
[QUOTE=DataZak] We Muslims do believe in Jesus Christ…we however disagree that he was God incarnate or the Son of God or part of the Trinity or that he was crucified and came back after how many days. [Rodney King]_Can’t we all just get along?_[/RK] [/QUOTE] 'Fraid not. See post #10. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/50 "2006-12-15T21:44:56Z")
[A fair and balanced review of \*Left Behind: Eternal Forces.](http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/leftbehind.ars) “I talk to you, we glow, and then you’re a Christian. It’s just that easy.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/51 "2019-12-11T02:10:59Z")
Bumping this thread because, thanks to the cool folks at _Cracked_, I have been informed that a [a first-person Jesus simulator](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1198970/I_Am_Jesus_Christ/) is available. I know nothing about game playing on Steam, but this bit from the link is golden: > [@](#): > > Check if you can perform all famous miracles from the Bible like Jesus Christ. It is a simulation game and you can try to save the world as He did. Didn’t the Dude (my free translation of _El Señor_) die to save the world? Anyway, I’m wondering wht this means: > [@](#): > > If you a game-lover, why not to get to know His pass, His challenges, His sufferings, and His power! What does “pass” mean there? It seems to me, though, that this game might have the potential to be more Christ-like in actual play than _LB: EF_. It also seems to have the potential to be, well, not so divine. Yep; “It’s December” pretty much sums up why there’s more crazy Christian crap now. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/52 "2019-12-11T21:54:06Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What does “pass” mean there? Perhaps just a typo for “path”? ---
**Author:** ![Deltree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Deltree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deltree)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/53 "2019-12-12T02:09:41Z")
If I’m going to play a bloody game that involves lots of killing people, just because you can, I’m going to go for the ‘tried-and-true’. [Carmageddon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmageddon). Let’s go squick some peds… And not put all the blame on poor God, for a change. “I ran them over because it was FUN, OK?” ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/54 "2019-12-12T02:17:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > T > [li]Lord, I thank thee for allowing me to rid the world of yet another evil sinner, one who is bent on teaching the evils of evolution, forcing us to accept members of different races and religions as our equals, disrespecting the foundations of our nation by dismissing the Bible and taking an oath on a Qur’an or on nothing at all, who is teaching the evils of tolerance and thinking for oneself. Please help me to rid the world of more such evil.[/list][/li] Yes, I’m 13 years late with this, but essentially “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!”? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/55 "2019-12-12T03:26:49Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Perhaps just a typo for “path”? Did you notice the typo I made in that post? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/56 "2019-12-12T03:51:11Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Yes, I’m 13 years late with this, but essentially “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!”? 🙂 Almost to the day! Re-reading the thread got me wondering about the game’s “losing spirit points” and then the character is on the evil side. I thought the fundied out types preached OSAS. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/57 "2019-12-12T14:44:25Z")
Obstructive Sleep Apnea Syndrome? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/58 "2019-12-12T15:00:42Z")
Once Saved Always Saved. Meaning you can kill someone for the fun of it and you will still go to Heaven. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931/59 "2019-12-12T18:01:19Z")
I won’t play the Jesus game. I hate pray-to-win mechanics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convert-or-die-the-game/383931.md?page=2)