# Convertibles:  Are there any that aren't Girly, Gay, or Old Farty?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 30, 2004, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882 "2004-04-30T18:07:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/21 "2004-04-30T21:54:29Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> SLIGHTLY? Do you know any BMWs owned by straight guys? I mean, it’s almost as big an announcement as a VW Cabrio.Are you kidding? TOTALLY gay! 😃
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> Wow! I can be arbitrary AND insulting here. Maybe I _like_ IMHO. I usually stay away because my opinions are never humble. :wally
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> **Daddy** , you got that right about both the Sebring (screams “50-yr-old executive assistant” so it’s girly, too) and my daughter singling out the Miata.

I am fairly certain my husband is straight. I have never seen his VW Cabrio engaging in sexual activities with any other cars, for that matter.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/22 "2004-05-01T00:53:02Z")

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Appologies for not reading every post. I’m just popping in to say that I don’t think MGBs are girly, gay or old-farty. Hey, whenever there’s a thread about drop-tops, Johnny L.A. has to make his obligatory MGB plug. 😉

The entry-level Porsche – the Boxster – is not gay or old farty. Of course, the 911/996 is better.

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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/23 "2004-05-01T01:22:37Z")

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For the record, I don’t even know what gender my Cabrio is. It did just have the entire exhaust system redone, could that have transgendered it?

for the b-side of the record: I am not gay, I am a girl, I do fart, but am not old.

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**Author:** ![iwakura43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de0a6/32.png) [@iwakura43](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iwakura43)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/24 "2004-05-01T02:19:36Z")

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I’d still like someone to explain the connection between homosexuality and BMWs. Because I’m really into BMWs, and, afaik, am a het…

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/25 "2004-05-01T02:50:49Z")

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Well **drop** , I’ve had five T-top or convertible models including the Zs and a Corvette and the SL has, without a doubt, found safe passage into my heart and fondest memories. Don’t let classic styling fool you. It’s a beast at heart (provided you go with the 5.6) and handles like a Ping iron. Plus, they’re built to last and accrued miles are less of a concern than on, say, a Mitsubishi 3000 GT.

Then again, ain’t nuthin’ that’ll dust your shorts like what **Chefguy** posted.

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**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/26 "2004-05-01T03:22:55Z")

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Might I suggest the upcoming (or is it out yet?) Chrysler Crossfire convertible? The hardtop has a great musclecar look, and the pics I’ve seen of the ragtop look pretty damn schweet.

A quick Google check tells me you’d have to wait till spring '05, alas.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/27 "2004-05-01T04:01:55Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> Appologies for not reading every post. I’m just popping in to say that I don’t think MGBs are girly, gay or old-farty.

Nope, they aren’t. Brit roadsters definitely say, “My owner may have started reading Road & Track too young for his longterm well-being but he’s straight.”

There was this Big Healy out in Seattle going for about four grand less than what it would back in Chi. I fit in it, being younger and a bit thinner, but after two minutes of having my left leg twisted j…u…s…t wrong I realized I’d probably be crippled before the Idaho border. Would’ve almost been worth it.

**iwakura43** , it’s just that black BMWs, _especially_ M3s, seem to be part of the gay uniform around here. While I haven’t been hit on by another guy for some years I’d hate to have it start up again. The disappointment in their eyes is almost unbearable.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/28 "2004-05-01T04:04:43Z")

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> [@DaddyTimesTwo](#):
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> Were I in your shoes, I would go buy the biggerst sweetest 60s or 70s Amurrican iron convertible I could find. That 67 Olds you mentioned would be perfect, but a Cadillac would be the ultimate. Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Chevy, Ford, Mercury, Chrysler, they all made some really huge convertibles and any would do. If you buy one that’s not “perfect”, it probably wouldn’t be too expensive either.

I goota give a quick tip o’ the hat to the Classic American Beater, but beaters in general are another thread.

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**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/29 "2004-05-01T04:41:42Z")

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You definitely want a '65 model; the GTO’s nice, but I prefer the Ford Galaxie 500 or Mercury Marauder (although the latter tends toward the old-fart end of the scale). Or a '65 Cadillac, if you want the “classic pimp” look. The early '60s Lincolns are cool, too (four doors!).

But perhaps the young-straight-manliest convertibles are the '69-'71 [Buick](http://www.cruisenewsonline.com/Buick&OldCarBash/70BuickElectra.jpg)/[Olds](http://ultra.cto.us.edu.pl/pub/Multimedia/Pictures/Cars/Oldsmobile/1970.442convertible.01.jpg)/[Pontiac](http://www.avonhill.com/thumbnails/convertible/1970_Pontiac_Parisienne.jpeg), preferably in red. All the same basic car, just varying ugliness of grille.

A guy I went to high school with had the perfect beater '70-ish Buck (the “I” had fallen off the hood): top ripped to shreds (and never up), grille completely missing, torn leather seats…

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**Author:** ![MaggietheCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@MaggietheCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaggietheCat)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/30 "2004-05-01T06:30:02Z")

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If I may, might I suggest the BMW Z4? I doubt that it’s gay, since James Bond drove one in one of the more recent movies. It’s the finest car I’ve ever owned and I would recommend it to any one.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/31 "2004-05-01T14:38:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> There was this Big Healy out in Seattle going for about four grand less than what it would back in Chi. I fit in it, being younger and a bit thinner, but after two minutes of having my left leg twisted j…u…s…t wrong I realized I’d probably be crippled before the Idaho border. Would’ve almost been worth it.

One thing I liked about the MGBs (especially the ‘666), was the amount of legroom. I don’ t think I’ve ever had a car with as much. I remember, however, that the little accellerator pedal was not easy on the feet after a couple hundred miles.

I woke up thinking of convertibles this morning. I was thinking of a Ferrari. Red, of course. Last time I looked, Mondials were affordable.

Nah. I’ll do home improvement first.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/32 "2004-05-01T15:10:08Z")

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I’m not really into cars, but the new Chevy SSR is the first vehicle that I’ve actually “wanted.” Coolest thing I’ve ever seen and I’d buy one in a hearbeat.

[http://www.chevrolet.com/ssr/](http://www.chevrolet.com/ssr/)

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/33 "2004-05-01T15:59:53Z")

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[There’s always this one](http://www.hollywoodfyi.com/ahouse/car1.jpg) and while it’s a bit of a struggle at times, the top _does_ eventually come off.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2004, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/34 "2004-05-01T19:01:38Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Dude, I still have to be able to get my fat ass in and out of it! Might as well suggest an MG Midget.

Have you _tried_ an S2000? I am too big (lengthwise, not girth) to drive a Miata, but an S2000 fits me just fine. Now I only have to go find a spare 30-40K to be able to get one. And lots and lots of sunscreen. Hair mussing is not an issue. ☹

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/35 "2004-05-02T02:07:16Z")

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[maybe one of these?](http://www.saabusa.com/main/US/en/model_intro_93c_flash.xml)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/36 "2004-05-02T05:20:16Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Have you _tried_ an S2000?

As girth is my issue I’m unlikely to even try lest my efforts to extricate myself end up as the last segment on the evening news.

Me: “I used to drive a Dodge Colt.”

Former Cow-orker: “Man, I’d PAY to watch you get in and out of a Dodge Colt!”

And I don’t think he was hoping I’d be wearing a short skirt when I did it.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/37 "2004-05-02T05:51:05Z")

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[Here](http://members.aol.com/corvetteli/m2v65t.jpg) ya go.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/38 "2004-05-02T07:09:27Z")

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Aston Martin V8 Vanquish - or the new AM DB9 convertible.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/39 "2004-05-02T07:58:42Z")

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My parents’ black Porsche Boxter is pretty damn sweet. It was pretty damn cool when I drove it to my wedding…top down, my best man and I in our tuxes. Awesome car, good power, but not excessive. Outstanding handling, looks fantastic, and can be had for a reasonable amount of money. My parents’ is a '98 in mint condition, and only has around 20,000 miles on it, and they got it for around $25,000 a little while back.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convertibles-are-there-any-that-arent-girly-gay-or-old-farty/242882/40 "2004-05-03T22:18:12Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> [Here](http://members.aol.com/corvetteli/m2v65t.jpg) ya go.

Any mid-late '60s Vette I’d settle HAPPILY for one with a base 327 and 3-speed stick or a Powerglide.

And okay, Boxters are not gay nor particularly girly.

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