# Convervative news channels censoring Ron Paul **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467 "2007-05-09T23:19:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/101 "2007-05-16T18:10:19Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Paul came in second in FoxNews’s American-Idol-type [post-debate vote](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272493,00.html) last night, beating out Rudy Giuliani. [/QUOTE] I take it that Congressman Paul has wrapped up the teenage girl vote, unlike that uggo Tommy Thompson. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/102 "2007-05-16T20:46:20Z")
[QUOTE=Ravenman] I take it that Congressman Paul has wrapped up the teenage girl vote, unlike that uggo Tommy Thompson. [/QUOTE] Call him uggo if you will, but Thompson had quite a rep as governor for trying to sleep with as many women as he met, and rumor has it succeeding with most of his female staff. If by some wild chance (bomb at a debate that he’s not at?) he gets the nomination, I’m reasonably confident this could be used to destroy him. Actually, even earlier if he is ever seen as enough of a threat to do opposition research on. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/103 "2007-05-16T21:12:01Z")
The generosity of women never ceases to astound. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/104 "2007-05-16T21:18:54Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] The generosity of women never ceases to astound. [/QUOTE] For some reason, many women seem to view men with power as _ipso facto_ sexy. I doubt the reverse holds true. Would **you** sleep with Hillary?! ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/105 "2007-05-16T21:29:07Z")
Wolf Blitzer (CNN) just interviewed Ron Paul at length and allowed him to expand on his comments from the debate. Guess Wolf didn’t get the memo that Paul had been blacklisted. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/106 "2007-05-16T21:29:31Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] For some reason, many women seem to view men with power as _ipso facto_ sexy. I doubt the reverse holds true. Would **you** sleep with Hillary?! [/QUOTE] If my job depended on it, during a recession, when I had mortgage payments to make, and I could wear a blindfold, yes. ---
**Author:** ![ForumBot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee59a6/32.png) [@ForumBot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ForumBot)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/107 "2007-05-16T21:38:04Z")
Hell yeah I’d do it with Hillary. Like that comedian said, the roleplay would make it all worthwile. WHO _spank_ IS _spank_ THE PRESIDENT! _spank_ ---
**Author:** ![Brainiac4](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brainiac4/32/3534_2.png) [@Brainiac4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brainiac4)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/108 "2007-05-17T01:48:55Z")
[QUOTE=AskNott] John Edwards said so, and backed out of two Fox-run debates. > **[News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](https://www.aol.com/news/)** > > Get breaking news and the latest headlines on business, entertainment, politics, world news, tech, sports, videos and much more from AOL Harry Reid said so, and [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) called Fox News a mouthpiece for the Republican Party. [http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0918742820070310](http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0918742820070310) It’s not just some isolated “self-identified Democrat” saying that Fox News leans hard to the right. [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) got 280,000 people to sign a petition asking the Democratic Party to step away from the Fox. If “_the guy who runs the company_,” Roger Ailes, conflates Barack Obama with Osama Bin Laden, would that make it seem that he’s the GOP’s man? He did. [/QUOTE] I think we’re talking at cross-purposes. I was responding to CanvasShoes’ assertion that: > [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Wasn’t there even some statement made by members of the democrat party back during some of the debates to this effect? Something like “well, we’ll let them (the righties) have Fox”? I can’t remember where I read it though, sorry I don’t have a cite, merely a question. There are many Democrats who think (and say) that Fox leans hard to the right. I’m one of them (and a signatory to that petition, IIRC). But saying Fox leans to the right is different from saying “we’ll let them (the righties) have Fox”, which carries the implication that “we (the lefties)” have the rest of the networks. WRT Ailes being a loyal Bushie, mmyep, he is. I was attempting to reference that fact in a subtle fashion, and apparently failed. I think we’re on the same side, kemo sabe. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/109 "2007-05-17T02:15:13Z")
If “the left” has control of every MSM channel besides FOX…well, we’re screwed as a movement, aren’t we? I mean, they’ve carried the water for Bush and the GOP for the past seven years, every talking point has been credously aired and supported on countless shows with the exception of a few anomalous examples (Olbermann). Then again, I suppose one could say they’re emulating the example set by the Democratic Party… ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/110 "2007-05-17T17:27:54Z")
In news that should come as a surprise to nobody: (1) The GOP is trying to [ban Paul from future debates.](http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-44/117935695635230.xml&storylist=newsmichigan) (2) The Neocons [continue their campaign](http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/daee4a40-84ee-4c50-b1bc-98604e232cc0) to characterize him as a nut. (3) Polls tracking the (R) candidates have begun [intentionally excluding Paul](http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25504). What are they so scared of? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/111 "2007-05-17T17:33:04Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] What are they so scared of? [/QUOTE] Looking like what they are: the party of big, bloated government **and** the trampling of personal freedoms. Best of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/112 "2007-05-17T18:04:40Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] In news that should come as a surprise to nobody: (1) The GOP is trying to [ban Paul from future debates.](http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-44/117935695635230.xml&storylist=newsmichigan) (2) The Neocons [continue their campaign](http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/daee4a40-84ee-4c50-b1bc-98604e232cc0) to characterize him as a nut. (3) Polls tracking the (R) candidates have begun [intentionally excluding Paul](http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25504). [/QUOTE] Honestly, I don’t see any scandal in portraying Ron Paul as a nut. I don’t think it’s a neocon effort – I think it is more likely an effort by everyone who isn’t a libertarian. On the substance of the issue, reference the ongoing discussions in GD about what a flakey idea it is to support a return to the gold standard. As far as removing him from polls, let’s get serious – the link was to (as Liberal put it earlier) an American Idol style poll. Let me say two things only on this issue: 1) I don’t care, and 2) I’m shocked – _shocked_ – that Internet polls may not be an accurate measure of what the public is thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/113 "2007-05-17T18:35:55Z")
Hell, I’m all for portraying Ron Paul as a nut. Sadly, it has nothing to do with his being a libertarian, and everything to do with being a racist and anti-semitic flake. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/114 "2007-05-17T18:38:44Z")
[QUOTE=Mr. Moto] Hell, I’m all for portraying Ron Paul as a nut. Sadly, it has nothing to do with his being a libertarian, and everything to do with being a racist and anti-semitic flake. [/QUOTE] I’m curious as to whether there are cites to substantiate Paul being racist and anti-semitic. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/115 "2007-05-17T18:45:02Z")
Ron Paul: [Government and Racism](http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/116 "2007-05-17T18:46:49Z")
Quotes from Ron Paul’s political newsletter, circa 1992: “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.” “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,” “Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,” “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government.” [Link.](http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html) ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/117 "2007-05-17T21:48:42Z")
[Chairman of the Michigan Republican Party](http://www.thestate.com/166/story/66451.html): Ron Paul > [@](#): > > The chairman of the Michigan Republican Party said Wednesday he will try to bar presidential candidate Ron Paul from future GOP debates because of remarks the Texas congressman made that suggested the Sept. 11 attacks were the fault of U.S. foreign policy. > > Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from other debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings. > > “Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” Paul said. > > Anuzis called the comments “off the wall and out of whack.” ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/118 "2007-05-17T22:16:39Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] [Chairman of the Michigan Republican Party](http://www.thestate.com/166/story/66451.html): Ron Paul [/QUOTE] I don’t get it. The stopped clock is right for once, (unambiguously, according to Bin Laden’s own stated reasons for encouraging these attacks,) and that’s what they single out as “off the wall?” Predictable, I guess - it’s an easily-exploited weakness. It’s not as though he said the attacks were justified - but U.S. military presence in the Middle East is the primary thing that al Qaeda’s violence is a reaction to, even if it plays better in Peoria to claim that it’s because they hate the Great Game of Baseball and the Institution of Motherhood. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/119 "2007-05-17T22:28:56Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Mudd] it plays better in Peoria to claim that it’s because they hate the Great Game of Baseball and the Institution of Motherhood. [/QUOTE] And apple pie! They can’t STAND apple pie! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467/120 "2007-05-18T02:10:24Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] And apple pie! They can’t STAND apple pie! [/QUOTE] NO NO NO! Can’t you remember ANYTHING? They hate our FREEDOM! What we have left of it… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convervative-news-channels-censoring-ron-paul/403467.md?page=7)