# Convince me not to be racist

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 17, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781 "2014-08-17T21:35:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/121 "2014-08-24T13:20:32Z")

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> [@eman77](#):
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> And to piss you off a little bit, I’m rewording your post slightly to point out some hypocrisy.

Doing something to deliberately piss off another poster is a bad idea in Great Debates. Announcing your intention is a really bad idea.

Further, if you are going to “reword” another’s post, use quotation marks or italics. Do not use the software’s Quote tags unless you are actually quoting the poster.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/122 "2014-08-24T13:50:42Z")

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> [@nachtmusick](#):
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> Emphasis on “American” rather than “African-American”.

And you are still the one making sure that they cannot be as “American” as anyone else. You want them to de-emphasize their roots while the [British-Americans](https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-British-American-Club/135241156548341?rf=105008216208781),[Chinese-Americans](http://www.spcc-web.org/), [German-Americans](http://www.german-americanclub.com/),[Irish-Americans](http://www.irishamericanclubeastside.org/), [Italian-Americans](http://www.lagazzettaitaliana.com/iaclubs.aspx), [Japanese-Americans](http://jas-co.org/), [Korean-Americans](http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2963967), [Mexican-Americans](http://www.aama.org/history/),[Polish-Americans](http://www.poloniacolumbus.org/), [Slovak-Americans](http://www.americanslovakclub.com/), and a host of other ethnic groups are free to identify themselves without comment.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/123 "2014-08-24T16:00:49Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> 1. Well the obvious one is the benefits of doing so on any particular encounter are _de minimus_, while the costs involve possible rudeness. If your actions in fact are invisible, that might be a different matter.
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> 2. If you think racial profiling will keep you safer as an individual than situational awareness then it seems to me that you are, “Betraying a greater interest in maintaining your worldview than in maintaining your safety.” Look if someone looks like they’re ready to hassle you, evasive maneuvers are acceptable. Maintaining a path of escape, especially when it is dark, is common sense. Same for protecting your personal space. I’m all for smart self defense; it’s stupid shit that I oppose.
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> 3. Ta Nehisi Coates has a few words to say about the subject: [It's the Racism, Stupid - The Atlantic](http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/its-the-racism-stupid/278026/)  
> [INDENT]Let us be direct – in any other context we would automatically recognize this “talk” as stupid advice. If I were to tell you that I only employ Asian-Americans to do my taxes because “Asian-Americans do better on the Math SAT,” you would not simply question my sensitivity, but my mental faculties. That is because you would understand that in making an individual decision, employing an ancestral class of millions is not very intelligent. Moreover, were I to tell you I wanted my son to marry a Jewish woman because “Jews are really successful,” you would understand that statement for the stupidity which it is.
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> It would not be acceptable for me to make such suggestions (to say nothing of policy) in an enlightened society – not simply because they are “impolite” but because they betray a rote, incurious and addled intellect. There is no difference between my argument above and the notion that black boys should be avoided because they are overrepresented in the violent crime stats. But one of the effects of racism is its tendency to justify stupidity. [/INDENT]

1. The premise was holding one’s wallet more tightly, so rudeness is implied regardless of race. The wallet is being held.

2. What’s the difference between “racial profiling,” “gender profiling,” “age profiling,” “size profiling,” or any other physical characteristics upon which one relies to properly assess levels of risk in any situation? On a rational level, there is none. Only on a societal, empathetic level, do we choose to only allow some types of profiling. But this is purely for emotional appeasement.

3. I don’t think it’s stupid to say Jews are, _on average_, more successful. In fact, it’s an insult to my intelligence to suggest that the relatively higher level of financial success of my Jewish friends is not a reality. You may wish it weren’t for the sake of “maintaining your worldview,” but I shall not.

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**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/124 "2014-08-24T17:00:48Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Being more wary of a group of unknown, young, black, males after dark in a neighborhood with a median income below $30,000 than of a group of known, elderly, white females at noon in a neighborhood with a median income above $80,000 is not racist. Being distrustful of any human being who happens to have a preponderance of African ancestry within the last 300 years is just stupid, with the stupidity taking the form of racism.

Turn this argument around. Consider a group of older blacks, the men in suits and the ladies in dresses and hats, having Sunday dinner at the restaurant, versus a group of twenty-something white males with lots of tattoos skulking in a downtown alley late at night passing around bottles of booze.

Which group is more likely to be dangerous? If you follow the OP’s “logic,” then obviously you need to be wary of the blacks (who are, after all, _black_, and might murder you at high noon), whereas you are perfectly safe walking down the alley past the drunken white louts.

Yes, that would be stupidity taking the form of racism.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/125 "2014-08-24T17:24:05Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> 1. The premise was holding one’s wallet more tightly, so rudeness is implied regardless of race. The wallet is being held.

Let’s deal with this in point #2, which gets to the real substance of the issue.

> [@Stringbean](#):
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> 1. What’s the difference between “racial profiling,” “gender profiling,” “age profiling,” “size profiling,” or any other physical characteristics upon which one relies to properly assess levels of risk in any situation? On a rational level, there is none. Only on a societal, empathetic level, do we choose to only allow some types of profiling. But this is purely for emotional appeasement.

You honestly believe that there’s no difference? Let me explain the difference. If we talk about statistical differences between, say, the propensity for violence in women vs. men, or in old people vs. young people, we’re talking about behavioral differences that are intrinsic, that result from physical and biological differences. When we engage in racial profiling against blacks, we’re engaging in _ **self-reinforcing stereotypes** _ in such matters as crime levels, education, career, and employment levels – statistics that are unfavorable to blacks because we have always believed that they were – and should be – unfavorable, and have done our very best to make it so, over centuries, and in horrifying ways. If you think this is “emotional appeasement” then you don’t even understand what racism is.

> [@Stringbean](#):
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> 1. I don’t think it’s stupid to say Jews are, _on average_, more successful. In fact, it’s an insult to my intelligence to suggest that the relatively higher level of financial success of my Jewish friends is not a reality. You may wish it weren’t for the sake of “maintaining your worldview,” but I shall not.

What world view do you think we’re supporting? Again, I have to question your understanding of the nature of racism. What you state may well be true for your circle of friends. It may even be true for Jewish people overall due to whatever cultural factors may drive success. So what? Where gross stupidity enters the picture is when one starts making _ **individual** _ decisions on that basis – like hiring or not hiring a person because they are (or are not) Jewish or black or white or Asian or whatever else bigoted racists may use to justify their bigotry.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/126 "2014-08-24T18:13:49Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Unless you are also refusing to invest in any financial entity that is run by white men, you only demonstrate a seriously inconsistent pattern of thought, (as well as a failure to think logically), if you insist that a racist position makes any sense.
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> Being more wary of a group of unknown, young, black, males after dark in a neighborhood with a median income below $30,000 than of a group of known, elderly, white females at noon in a neighborhood with a median income above $80,000 is not racist. Being distrustful of any human being who happens to have a preponderance of African ancestry within the last 300 years is just stupid, with the stupidity taking the form of racism.

The “don’t invest with white owned banks” is absurd and I believe that you know it. If there was a system where banks were somewhat equally owned between blacks and whites, and the statistics showed that the white banks committed financial crimes at a far higher rate than the black ones, then we would be closer to the OP’s question.

The second example is equally flawed. You introduced, at my count, five non-racial elements in the example to show that it is not a racist decision. Like any other study, one must control for the other variables and ask if that everything else being equal, would one be more logical to protect himself from crime by avoiding a black person or a white person.

Obviously, if my choice is between staying the night with Jeffrey Dahmer or Clarence Thomas, the choice is the latter. Even the grand cyclops of the local Ku Klux Klan would agree with me on that point. Cherry picking examples doesn’t answer the question.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/127 "2014-08-24T18:49:34Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> 1. I don’t think it’s stupid to say Jews are, _on average_, more successful. In fact, it’s an insult to my intelligence to suggest that the relatively higher level of financial success of my Jewish friends is not a reality. You may wish it weren’t for the sake of “maintaining your worldview,” but I shall not.

You missed the point. It’s one thing to observe that Jews are more successful. It’s another thing to want your kid to marry one sight unseen of the individual in question. In statistical terms this involves focusing on small differences in means as opposed to wider variances in the subpopulation. In common terms, “If I were to tell you that I only employ Asian-Americans to do my taxes because “Asian-Americans do better on the Math SAT,” you would not simply question my sensitivity, but my mental faculties.”

You can’t seem to get your mind off the attributes of each sub-population though. You might want to read the passage again: the author wasn’t disputing the statistics only the lame, ignorant and addled interpretation of them. But you can’t seem to grasp that.

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**Author:** ![ILikeForeignLanguages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@ILikeForeignLanguages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILikeForeignLanguages)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/128 "2014-08-24T19:38:17Z")

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Criminals are not color coded. The fact that black people allegedly commit the most crime in your city does not speak of the character of all black people. Do not put black and white faces on criminals - just put criminal faces on criminals.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/129 "2014-08-24T20:04:05Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> The second example is equally flawed. You introduced, at my count, five non-racial elements in the example to show that it is not a racist decision. Like any other study, one must control for the other variables and ask if that everything else being equal, would one be more logical to protect himself from crime by avoiding a black person or a white person.

The whole point is that there are no divisions that do not have multiple factors that are not solely based on race. Basing anything solely on race is stupid for that very fact.  
If you are looking to avoid being the victim of a criminal, it might make sense to avoid a young, black man who is un- or under-employed living in a depressed neighborhood. There is no reason to avoid my co-workers who are male and female, having various ages, making an adequate wage, and living in suburbia and exurbia.

Your Dahmer/Thomas comparison is also flawed. I would much rather spend the night in the room with a quiet skeleton than with a grumpy old man with bad opinions.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/130 "2014-08-24T20:42:46Z")

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[Interesting essay on white privilege.](http://www.salon.com/2014/08/23/white_privilege_an_insidious_virus_thats_eating_america_from_within/)

> [@](#):
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> But the most insidious power of white privilege, the albatross effect that makes it so oppressive to _white people themselves,_ is the way it renders itself invisible and clouds the collective mind. It’s like a virus that adapts in order to ensure its own survival and perpetuation, in this case by convincing its host it isn’t there. So we see polls suggesting that large percentages of white Americans believe that racism is not a significant factor in Ferguson or law enforcement in general, that cops are just doing their jobs, and that whatever bad things may have happened once upon a time in our beloved country, they’ve been locked away in the dusty cabinet of history and don’t matter anymore. We passed the Voting Rights Act and exiled the Ku Klux Klan to the margins of society (or at least to websites with really bad graphics). Ergo, white privilege obviously doesn’t exist anymore.
> 
> Among the “childish things” we need to put aside, white people, is the idea that America’s tormented racial legacy belongs to the past. You know exactly the attitude I mean: We have twice elected a biracial president and LeBron James and Jay Z are zillionaires, so no more talk of racism, please. In the more paranoid formulation prevalent in the Fox News demographic (but not limited to it), this becomes the idea that the federal government has spent the last 50 years giving away money, housing, education and other “free stuff” to black people who don’t work or pay taxes, while vigorously grinding down the white man. So either the vision of healing and reconciliation conjured up so eloquently by Martin Luther King, Jr. more than 50 years ago has now been fulfilled (and black people need to stop complaining), or America is being not so slowly turned into a gay-Muslim-socialist totalitarian state where every day is Kwanzaa. Both scenarios come up against the nettlesome fact that African-Americans stubbornly persist in being poor, living in disadvantaged circumstances, getting shot by the police for no particular reason and going to prison in large numbers.
> 
> This kind of white privilege is a willful blindness, along with a passionate embrace of exactly the kind of aggrievement and victimhood that white people often claim to resent in others. It’s found in Sarah Palin and Sean Hannity, of course, but also among people like hipster über-troll Gavin McInnes, the co-founder of Vice, who wrote a piece not long ago explaining that racism, sexism and homophobia do not actually exist. But I’m not principally talking about Republican ideologues and their hardcore supporters, who have built their power and influence on thinly veiled racism over the past 40 years and barely even bother denying it. There is a much larger population of white Americans, I believe, who feel troubled by what they saw in Ferguson but are unable or unwilling to face the fact that it reflects a recurring historical pattern that has obviously not been exorcised, a pattern of power, privilege and domination in which they are complicit.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/131 "2014-08-24T20:58:33Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> You honestly believe that there’s no difference? Let me explain the difference. If we talk about statistical differences between, say, the propensity for violence in women vs. men, or in old people vs. young people, we’re talking about behavioral differences that are intrinsic, that result from physical and biological differences. When we engage in racial profiling against blacks, we’re engaging in _ **self-reinforcing stereotypes** _ in such matters as crime levels, education, career, and employment levels – statistics that are unfavorable to blacks because we have always believed that they were – and should be – unfavorable, and have done our very best to make it so, over centuries, and in horrifying ways. If you think this is “emotional appeasement” then you don’t even understand what racism is.

I haven’t mentioned anything regarding causality–biological, physical, mental, etc.

I am simply assessing risk based on known statistics regarding propensity for criminal activity. This is, in fact, the rational, empirical methodology of risk assessment.

Assuming any one individual black person is a criminal is wrong. Assuming any one black person is _more likely to commit a crime_ is, empirically speaking, fact.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/132 "2014-08-24T21:13:44Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> I am simply assessing risk based on known statistics regarding propensity for criminal activity. This is, in fact, the rational, empirical methodology of risk assessment.
> 
> Assuming any one individual black person is a criminal is wrong. Assuming any one black person is _more likely to commit a crime_ is, empirically speaking, fact.

Again, rational risk assessment is multivariate. If you’re going to use crude statistics in a boneheaded manner, you should be concerned that [83% of white homicide victims are murdered by other whites](http://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053811/white-on-white-murder). But honestly, if you want to make yourself safer on the street, situational awareness is more helpful. Unfortunately there are those who fear having the their worldview toppled more than they fear for their objective safety.

> [@The link](#):
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> This is not to say that white people are inherently prone to violence. Most whites, obviously, manage to get through life without murdering anyone. And there are many countries full of white people — Norway, Iceland, France, Denmark, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom — where white people murder each other at a much lower rate than you see here in the United States. On the other hand, although people often see criminal behavior as a symptom of poverty, the quantity of murder committed by white people specifically in the United States casts some doubt on this. Per capita GDP is considerably higher here than in France — and the white population in America is considerably richer than the national average — and yet we have more white murderers.
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> To understand the level of cultural pathology at work here, it’s important to understand that 36 percent of those killed by whites are women — a far higher share than you see with black murderers.
> 
> Clearly, the social disaster of white violence has complicated roots. But the beginning of an answer is to admit that we have a problem.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/133 "2014-08-24T21:38:08Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> […] Your Dahmer/Thomas comparison is also flawed. I would much rather spend the night in the room with a quiet skeleton than with a grumpy old man with bad opinions.

Ha ha. Literalist!

I like this thread (even if the OP is something of a McGuffin). If I see any mention of Indians, I’ll be in it like Flynn - er, the _The Adventures of Robin Hood_ Flynn, not the _They Died With Their Boots On_ Flynn (fictionalized account of Custer).

Multivariate risk assessment kinda gives me the hives, as does the guy who thinks that posting “interesting essays” from other sites with no commentary of his own is a valid debate technique.

I don’t really think any amount of arguing (not going to say ‘convincing’ - kinda begs the question, to me) is gonna persuade a racist to not so be. Only persuasion I can see might have an impact would be experiential. Watching the tv news (any channel) doesn’t help, except to bring up the racism for possible self-examination. Yeah, right.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/134 "2014-08-24T21:49:26Z")

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[Black women enroll in college more than any other group.](http://www.examiner.com/article/black-women-enroll-college-more-than-any-race-and-gender)

According to Pew Research, [black women college grads are more likely to read a book than any other group](http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/01/most-likely-person-read-book-college-educated-black-woman/357091/).

If you find yourself reflexively questioning these statistics but not the ones that support the belief that blacks are all violent thugs, then you might just be a racist.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2014, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/135 "2014-08-24T22:58:45Z")

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> [@jimbuff314](#):
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> I like this thread (even if the OP is something of a McGuffin).

Not really. A McGuffin is something everybody wants.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/136 "2014-08-25T00:00:48Z")

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I want him to come back and respond to our posts!

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/137 "2014-08-25T01:12:18Z")

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Expected a burn.  
Not disappointed.

Yah! Come back **G-SE**. How can we convince you if you will not respond?  
I’m beginning to have un-GD thoughts about your worth and intentions as an OP.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/138 "2014-08-25T01:47:56Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> I haven’t mentioned anything regarding causality–biological, physical, mental, etc.
> 
> I am simply assessing risk based on known statistics regarding propensity for criminal activity. This is, in fact, the rational, empirical methodology of risk assessment.
> 
> Assuming any one individual black person is a criminal is wrong. Assuming any one black person is _more likely to commit a crime_ is, empirically speaking, fact.

Horseshit.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/139 "2014-08-25T01:51:00Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> [Black women enroll in college more than any other group.](http://www.examiner.com/article/black-women-enroll-college-more-than-any-race-and-gender)
> 
> According to Pew Research, [black women college grads are more likely to read a book than any other group](http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/01/most-likely-person-read-book-college-educated-black-woman/357091/).
> 
> If you find yourself reflexively questioning these statistics but not the ones that support the belief that blacks are all violent thugs, then you might just be a racist.

Thank you very much for posting this.

It’s always worth remembering that there’s a reason why there’s so many fantastic black women writers like Alice Walker, Nikki Giovanni and countless others.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-not-to-be-racist/695781/140 "2014-08-25T03:26:19Z")

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… because they have a lot to write about because white people assume they might rob and/or murder them?

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