# Convince me, PS4 or XBOX One **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 7, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359 "2013-11-07T21:00:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/141 "2013-12-10T20:44:32Z")
7 Things: 1. I am waiting unless the first price drop to buy as the games are just not that compelling and i have a full backlog of 360 and PS3 titles to get through. 2. From a purely “on paper” comparison the PS4 has a VERY slight edge in performance (but do not forget the faster and better optimized memory on the Xbox ). 3. From a realistic comparison, most people would be hard pressed to tell the differences in performance. 4. Personal opinion but the PS4 is sexier and is definitely smaller. 5. Personal opinion but most would agree that the Xbox interface blows away the PS4. 6. The Kinect is MUCH better on the Xbox One that it EVER was on the 360 but there is an extra 100 cost to that. 7. If you wait like me, you just might be able to get both for just a bit more than one currently 😃 But if I have to pick then its easy… Xbox, better interface, integration and experience for me. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/142 "2013-12-10T20:54:38Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Can’t help myself with what? I bring factual, knowledgable discussion to these issues. What bias am I using here? I read much more bias in your synopsis and interpretation than anything “factual”. Nonetheless I (as a developer in the non gaming space) will find a much better experience with the Xbox One than the PS4. In fact, just like last generation (where I have two of both) it is not even close. The PS4 has a technical EDGE that most people will not even notice but offers - in almost every other category - a worse gaming experience. And for the record, IMO you read the Ars article with YOUR bias on and - ironically - made your outlandish claims of bias. ---
**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/143 "2013-12-10T21:11:51Z")
> [@Lowdown](#): > > It’s new and shiny? I guess this doesn’t seem like a compelling reason to spend $400 on a device that basically doesn’t do anything right now. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/144 "2013-12-10T23:34:17Z")
> [@chargerrich](#): > > 7 Things: > 2. From a purely “on paper” comparison the PS4 has a VERY slight edge in performance (but do not forget the faster and better optimized memory on the Xbox ). > > 1. From a realistic comparison, most people would be hard pressed to tell the differences in performance. No and no. The Xbone does not feature faster RAM… well, it’s lower latency RAM, but it lacks bandwidth which is what feeds the GPU. And the performance difference seems pretty significant to me right now. Many 720p games on the Xbone vs the PS4. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/145 "2013-12-10T23:35:35Z")
> [@chargerrich](#): > > I read much more bias in your synopsis and interpretation than anything “factual”. Nonetheless I (as a developer in the non gaming space) will find a much better experience with the Xbox One than the PS4. In fact, just like last generation (where I have two of both) it is not even close. > > The PS4 has a technical EDGE that most people will not even notice but offers - in almost every other category - a worse gaming experience. And for the record, IMO you read the Ars article with YOUR bias on and - ironically - made your outlandish claims of bias. Instead of calling him biased and making yourself look silly, how about you point out where he is being biased? ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/146 "2013-12-10T23:37:20Z")
Anyone own the Xbone yet? I’m curious about the media center features and how they perform. My HTPC is dying ☹ I was hoping to wait until at least next year to decide on another HTPC, a Steam machine or a console for my TV, but I’m going to need something soon. Anyone care ton share their experience with the Xbone in a non-gaming context? ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/147 "2013-12-11T02:12:12Z")
Recent Best Buy experience. 7 in line an hour before open. 6 PS4 - 1 One tickets handed out. Dec. 8 ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/148 "2013-12-11T02:36:28Z")
Right now the PS4 is an extension of my PS3 gaming experience. I still have GTA V to get through and a number of PS plus free games that haven’t had a first boot. Downloaded them before they got taken out of the rotation. Airk is doling out good advice with the wait and see approach. I knew I wanted to play Killzone: Shadow Fall and Knack looked interesting. That’s why I splurged. With the exception of the Blue Light of Death on my first console, my experience with the PS4 has been good. It’s not life changing. Went ahead got another as a Christmas present for my nephew and bought protection plans just in case. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/149 "2013-12-11T12:36:20Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > Went ahead got another as a Christmas present for my nephew and bought protection plans just in case. Why? Failures like that should still be well covered by a manufacturer’s warranty. ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/150 "2013-12-11T14:38:54Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Why? Failures like that should still be well covered by a manufacturer’s warranty. Protection plan extends warranty by 2 years. When my PS3 BD drive failed, it cost me $150 to get it fixed. Just a little peace of mind. Incidentally, when Best Buy was talking up their protection plan(mine is through Sony), the sales associate “quoted” a 20-30% failure rate. Pretty sure he was exaggerating. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/151 "2013-12-11T16:40:06Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > Incidentally, when Best Buy was talking up their protection plan(mine is through Sony), the sales associate “quoted” a 20-30% failure rate. Pretty sure he was exaggerating. Pretty sure Sony could sue for libel (or slander, I forget which is which) if he was quoting actual figures like that. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/152 "2013-12-12T03:54:58Z")
Interesting interview with Xbox designers, they seem to talk pretty honestly about design trade-offs etc. They admit that the esram low latency doesn’t help GPU much and that CPU access to that mem is slow. > **[Digital Foundry: the complete Xbox One architects interview](https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-the-complete-xbox-one-interview)** > > So here we go - a complete transcript of Digital Foundry's discussions on the Xbox One architecture with two integral m… ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/153 "2013-12-22T15:45:30Z")
The debate is over. My girlfriend found a xbox one on the shelf so that’s the one I’m getting. But I have to wait for Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/154 "2013-12-25T04:12:21Z")
Xbox ones are plentiful in stores around here. Not ps4 ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/155 "2013-12-26T09:32:26Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > Xbox ones are plentiful in stores around here. Not ps4 No one knows if it’s better Xbox supply or stronger PS4 demand. Congrats, Loach. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/156 "2013-12-26T12:26:29Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > No one knows if it’s better Xbox supply or stronger PS4 demand. Congrats, Loach. Sure we do. Right now, it’s better Xbox supply. The two systems are neck-and-neck when it comes to sales. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/157 "2013-12-26T14:23:54Z")
PSN took a beating yesterday as all the new PS4s people opened on xmas were trying to open accounts, log on etc… en masse. Was there a similar issue on XBL? Either way I did manage to get everything up an running pretty painlessly and played my only game, Killzone Shadowfall. The graphics are very nice and the controls are much better than the previous versions. Not as heavy. My only issue, and this is kind of a doozy, is I can’t see the Helghast. The graphics are so lush and detailed now that I have a very hard time seeing them in foliage and/or shadows even when they are obliterating me with gunfire from every direction. Also feels like the checkpoints are much further apart in this one than in the past too. Downloaded Resogun and Contrast (which are the free games for PS+) Haven’t played either of them yet though. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/158 "2013-12-26T15:19:44Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > PSN took a beating yesterday as all the new PS4s people opened on xmas were trying to open accounts, log on etc… en masse. Was there a similar issue on XBL? There was not. But the Wii U/3DS network was having some major connectivity problems as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/159 "2013-12-26T15:51:29Z")
Steam also went down for a few hours once they announced they were giving away Left4Dead 2 for free. Lots of people with some free time and loaded with gift cards/new consoles. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359/160 "2013-12-26T16:06:42Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > Xbox ones are plentiful in stores around here. Not ps4 Not exactly plentiful around here but a couple stores got a few more in before the holiday. Never saw any in the Microsoft store. > [@enomaj](#): > > No one knows if it’s better Xbox supply or stronger PS4 demand. Congrats, Loach. Thanks. I only have the one game for it so far. I seem to recall bad supply issues with Sony and the PS3 as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-ps4-or-xbox-one/673359.md?page=9)