# Convince me why I should go out with nerd girl.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 11, 2004, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607 "2004-05-11T12:00:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/161 "2004-05-12T16:42:55Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Anyway, I think that’s what already Seige said, but better.

And I hope y’all know that I meant that **Seige** said it better than I did. Definitely Seige said it better! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Yamirskoonir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c0e974/32.png) [@Yamirskoonir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yamirskoonir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/162 "2004-05-12T16:44:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> > [@Lsura](#):
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> > So, because I’m a nerd and a librarian, do I get double points?
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> > [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> > Yes. Quadruple if you wear glasses. 😃

YESH! Quadruple for me! Librarians RULE!

Oh yeah, and I’ve also got red hair, like the Dom librarian from **Tomcats**. Do I win? 😃

“You’ve been a bad boy…you turned in your library book late.” - _WHACK!_

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/163 "2004-05-12T16:48:50Z")

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> [@Yamirskoonir](#):
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> …and I’ve also got red hair…

How _you_ doin’? 😉

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**Author:** ![coffeecam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bc8723/32.png) [@coffeecam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecam)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/164 "2004-05-12T21:13:58Z")

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> [@Yamirskoonir](#):
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> YESH! Quadruple for me! Librarians RULE!
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> Oh yeah, and I’ve also got red hair, like the Dom librarian from **Tomcats**. Do I win? 😃
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> “You’ve been a bad boy…you turned in your library book late.” - _WHACK!_

_cranks eyes back into sockets_

So… whats the shortest checkout time your library offers? 😉

On Preview… curse you **QED** once again math is my downfall!

So, does this glasses wearing nerdy librarian thing work the other way too?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/165 "2004-05-12T22:53:24Z")

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> [@Yamirskoonir](#):
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> YESH! Quadruple for me! Librarians RULE!
> 
> Oh yeah, and I’ve also got red hair, like the Dom librarian from **Tomcats**. Do I win? 😃
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> “You’ve been a bad boy…you turned in your library book late.” - _WHACK!_

:eek:

Who needs Enzyte when you’ve got that?

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/166 "2004-05-12T22:59:44Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> … I don’t care what y’all say.

THEN WHY DID YOU ASK FOR OUR OPINIONS YOU JACKASS?

You only like what **Seige** had to say because it’s what you _wanted_ to hear. Nice how you totally IGNORE the 4 pages telling you otherwise.

Jerk. I hope she turns you down.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/167 "2004-05-12T23:07:04Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> **Seige** , thanks for the offer to help me find a nice geek girl in the Pittsburgh area.
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> Unfortunately I have to pass on that since I am already a girl, and not gay. If you know any geek _guys_, I’m open to suggestions.

First of, thanks for the compliments, all of you, but I do have one nitpick since I’m feeling cranky tonight. (Leave it alone – I’m straight and the “C” is lower case!) The name is S **ie** ge. I know. I couldn’t spell it either, at first. Look at it this way: at least you never had to go groveling to a moderator to ask them to change your handle to its correct spelling! :wally

Second, **catsix** , you misunderstand me. I know eligible, straight, _male_ geeks. More to the point, I can even tell you why at least one of them is still eligible and why you’re better off if he stays that way, and which ones aren’t quite as eligible as they appear. I can tell you which hotel to find a couple hundred or so geeks of various sexes and degrees of eligibilty, and I’ll give you the website for [Pittsburgh Geeks](http://www.pghgeeks.org). The website has the date and time of their next Geek Night. You’re welcome to any of the eligible, straight, male geeks but one. I’m also expecting a couple of eligible male geeks at that Games Night I mentioned, and I know I’m making Strawberries Bonaparte. Now, shall we commence negotiations? 😉

**Shakes** , **Angel of the Lord** gave you good advice. I’ll warn you of one other thing. This nerd girl of yours could shoot you down. If the impression you give in real life is like the impression you gave at the start of this thread, she may think this is a pity date and want nothing to do with you. I went through a period when I didn’t date at all rather than risk dating and being humiliated (hopefully, she’s in better shape than I was in those days!). I’m not sure how much I’ve seen here is ego and how much is bravado, but can you handle it and not be insulting or insulted if she turns you down? I hate to break it to you, lad, but that is a possibility.

I’ll also remind you of the movie _Revenge of the Nerds_. Remember the cheerleader’s reaction to the nerd guy? Ponder that, deeply. There’s a lot of truth to it!

By the way, **NoClueBoy** , you know the sentiment is returned because of and _in spite of_ what you did Monday night!

CJ

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/168 "2004-05-12T23:11:48Z")

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I meant to add **yosemite** gave you good advice, too.

By the way, **Shakes** , I do want to make one thing clear. The reason I advised you to prepare yourself for being shotdown is, from what I’ve seen of you here, if I were nerd girl, that’s what I’d do. Sorry to break it to you, but that’s one more woman’s opinion. Maybe I would be missing God’s gift to nerd girls everywhere; the god I worship does have a sense of humour. On the other hand, if you can’t miss what you haven’t had, you can’t regret it, either.

CJ

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/169 "2004-05-12T23:17:50Z")

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Sorry about that, **Siege** , I have an i and e problem.

Those Geek Nights seem kind of interesting.

Also, those of you who were counting geek girls who also like their bars and beers, me 100.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/170 "2004-05-12T23:19:45Z")

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I have a feeling there’s another BBS out there where a cute and intelligent girl is telling people there is an insecure guy at work who obviously likes her, but won’t make a move… and she dreads the day he does, because she’ll have to politely decline, mostly because she suspects his emotional maturity.

As for nerdy girls, I recommend you get one for yourself, as long as it isn’t my nerdy girl. 😉

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/171 "2004-05-13T00:18:40Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Is it possible to be a bar girl and a nerd girl at the same time? I play 9ball and poker…
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> … just sayin…

You’re a nine-ball shooter and consider yourself a nerd? I would have thought the two were mutually exclusive, but that’s just me and my personal experiences. I’ll defend to the death your right to be a nerdy nine-baller if that’s what you want. 😉

Now, poker/nerd I can believe.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/172 "2004-05-13T01:08:40Z")

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I didn’t bother to read 4 pages (right now…) of this drivel… **SHAKES** , if you’re such an amazing specimen of manhood, how could you ever find time from your busy dating (shagging) schedule to offer a mercy date. God, what a trooper you are! You must be a god among men!  
:wally

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/173 "2004-05-13T01:32:57Z")

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[Shaking apoplectically] DRIVEL!!! Why, I otta…  
Oh. It’s you. 'Sup, Six?

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/174 "2004-05-13T01:47:14Z")

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'Sup, **NCB**? If it was you who started this thread we woulda ASSUMED your studliness! 😃

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/175 "2004-05-13T13:18:54Z")

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> [@Esprix](#):
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> THEN WHY DID YOU ASK FOR OUR OPINIONS YOU JACKASS?
> 
> You only like what **Seige** had to say because it’s what you _wanted_ to hear. Nice how you totally IGNORE the 4 pages telling you otherwise.
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> Jerk. I hope she turns you down.
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> Esprix

Well, I’m sure this is going to make alot of people happy. She absolutely DID turn me down.

So go figure.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/176 "2004-05-13T13:29:40Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> Well, I’m sure this is going to make alot of people happy. She absolutely DID turn me down.
> 
> So go figure.

And there was much rejoicing.

Yaaaaay!

😉

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/177 "2004-05-13T13:31:09Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> Well, I’m sure this is going to make alot of people happy. She absolutely DID turn me down.
> 
> So go figure.

The girl has taste.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/178 "2004-05-13T13:34:35Z")

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**SHAKES** , thanks for the update. I didn’t think you’d post that. Maybe there is hope for you!

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/179 "2004-05-13T13:46:03Z")

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Good for her.

And if you learn something from this, and ask out girls because you _like_ them and not because you pity them, I’ll say good for you too.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-me-why-i-should-go-out-with-nerd-girl/244607/180 "2004-05-13T14:54:57Z")

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**SHAKES** - sorry you got the turndown.

SHAKES, I am a guy who was (is) nerdy in the day, but still had a “confident sense of self”. As I read all of this - and it took a while - I was struck by a key thought:

_There appears to be a disconnect between how you feel about yourself and how you express yourself._

In some ways, you seem to be a nice guy - you ask for advice, you struggle with feedback and acknowledge things you did wrong. You acknowledge that you like the nerdgirl, if only as a friend and you tell us you got turned down, knowing that there is going to be a dogpile on you. What I read into that is that you are a reasonably young guy, trying to figure out what the right thing is and wanting to think of yourself as a good guy.

What I got out of reading your posts was that you are cocky and condescending, using un-PC as an excuse to say and think and behave in a thoughtless manner.

While most of other Dopers slapped you - and that had to hurt, but at least you came back - there is something to be learned from it. And given the fact that she turned you down, maybe that is another data point for you to consider.

So my question is: What can you do, **SHAKES** , to find a way to feel good - confident, not cocky - about yourself, yet be more thoughtful in how you talk and behave with others, especially girls?

One idea? Ask nerdgirl out for coffee and ask for her advice…

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