# Convince us that your most disliked movie us the worst film ever made.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 13, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550 "2015-10-13T14:38:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Greekfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@Greekfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greekfreak)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/101 "2015-10-24T15:24:09Z")

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A toss-up between “Bounce” and “Awake”. Two films my wife chose and she continues to apologize for choosing them to this very day.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/102 "2015-10-25T01:55:01Z")

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I truly like the worst movie ever made, which is of course the Nick Cage remake of _The Wicker Man_. From the bear suit to Cage beating up little girls to magically appearing beehives, it’s hilariously funny almost all the way through.

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**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/103 "2015-10-25T03:03:45Z")

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No place for old men, all the caste was one cliche character after another. Terrible movie.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/104 "2015-10-25T10:04:25Z")

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Land of the Lost movie.

I swear anything Will Ferrel touches should automatically go into the toilet. My favorite tv show as a kid turned into this piece of crap.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/105 "2015-10-25T12:38:17Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> No place for old men, all the caste was one cliche character after another. Terrible movie.

No Place for Old Men? Is that like a Daman Wayans spoof of No Country For Old Men?

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**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/106 "2015-10-25T13:20:17Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> No Place for Old Men? Is that like a Daman Wayans spoof of No Country For Old Men?

I must have been half asleep, “No Country For Old Me” is my most disliked movie.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/107 "2015-10-25T21:16:29Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> I must have been half asleep, “No Country For Old Me” is my most disliked movie.

😃

No Country For Old Me sounds like my daily life…

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/108 "2015-10-25T21:26:48Z")

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I heavily and thoroughly and quite negatively deconstructed _Avatar_ and _Children of Men_ in the (overall positive, especially the latter) threads that followed their releases and haven’t changed my position on either.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/109 "2015-10-26T13:03:15Z")

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_Avatar_ sucks but it’s surely not the worst movie ever.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/110 "2015-10-26T14:47:21Z")

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Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS (1977)

> **[Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS (1975) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071650/)**
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> Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS: Directed by Don Edmonds. With Dyanne Thorne, Gregory Knoph, Tony Mumolo, Maria Marx. Ilsa is an evil Nazi warden at a death camp that conducts "medical experiments." Ilsa's goal is to prove women can withstand more pain and...

If you’ve never heard of it, I strongly, strongly, very very strongly, suggest that you do not do irreparable damage to your eyes and to your mind and avert your eyes and avert your mind.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/111 "2015-10-26T14:50:14Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> _Avatar_ sucks but it’s surely not the worst movie ever.

I’m confident I haven’t seen the _worst_ movie ever (though I do have a DVD of _Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS_), I just described movies that I disliked and thought were hugely over-rated.

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**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/112 "2015-10-26T15:35:10Z")

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Are kid’s movies eligible? If so, I’d like to nominate one of the offerings my kids have discovered on Netflix in the past couple of years.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you… the [Bratz Babyz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratz_Babyz) series. And yes, that’s really the way they spell it. It is utter garbage, even by the (admittedly low) standards by which you would judge low-budget kid’s crap. The animation is laughably bad - well, not \*laughably \*bad because that would imply that it’s entertaining on some level, which it’s not. The dialogue is inane at best, and incomprehensible at worst. The voice actors all have ear-splitting unpleasant voices, with non-matching singing voices for the questionable musical numbers. The plot, well… good luck finding it.

It is such a miserable excuse for entertainment that I have actually spent time searching through Netflix’s settings to see if there’s a way to delete specific movies from the kid’s menu.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/113 "2015-10-26T15:40:35Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> Are kid’s movies eligible? If so, I’d like to nominate one of the offerings my kids have discovered on Netflix in the past couple of years.
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> Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you… the [Bratz Babyz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratz_Babyz) series. And yes, that’s really the way they spell it. It is utter garbage, even by the (admittedly low) standards by which you would judge low-budget kid’s crap. The animation is laughably bad - well, not \*laughably \*bad because that would imply that it’s entertaining on some level, which it’s not. The dialogue is inane at best, and incomprehensible at worst. The voice actors all have ear-splitting unpleasant voices, with non-matching singing voices for the questionable musical numbers. The plot, well… good luck finding it.
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> It is such a miserable excuse for entertainment that I have actually spent time searching through Netflix’s settings to see if there’s a way to delete specific movies from the kid’s menu.

You have intrigued me enough that I must go find this on Netflix.

It shouldn’t be anything new. As a kid I used to eat dirt.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/114 "2015-10-26T15:49:23Z")

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_Liquid Sky_ is a gawdawful sf movie about the Eighties NYC punk club scene, about an alien vampire who kills people by drawing off their life essence when they have an orgasm… or some such nonsense. Urrrrrk. A ridiculous plot, terrible acting, awful music and ludicrous dialogue. I saw it once in college and remain deeply scarred to this day. I hate, hate, _hate_ this movie - still my all-time most-loathed movie.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid\_Sky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Sky)

> **[Liquid Sky (1982) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085852/)**
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> Liquid Sky: Directed by Slava Tsukerman. With Anne Carlisle, Paula E. Sheppard, Susan Doukas, Otto von Wernherr. A small, heroin seeking UFO lands on a Manhattan roof, observes a bizarre, drug addicted fashion model and sucks endorphin from her...

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/115 "2015-10-26T15:50:06Z")

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if you’re going for kid’s movies, I think \*\*The Oogieloves Movie \*\* has Bratz beat hollow:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-663836.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-663836.html)

The one positive thing that came out of it was this wonderful review in the New York Times:

> **[Lovelyloveville, Where Pillows Get Presents (Published 2012)](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/movies/movie-review-the-oogieloves-and-the-big-balloon-adventure.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1)**
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> Silliness runs rampant for the Oogieloves and their young friends on screen and in the movie theater audience.

> [@](#):
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> Dear Mr. Scot,
> 
> Here is my critic of Oogieloves the Bloon Venture. Thanks for the dollar. I hope you liked your jintonic. They had milkshakes at the screaning.
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> I went with Hallie and her little brother Theo and ther dad. There’s 3 Oogieloves. The girl is Zoozie. The smart one is Goobie and the one with pants that fall down is Toofie. When his pants fall down your sposed to go “Goofy Toofie Pick up Your Pants.” It happins 4 times. When the butterflies come on the screen your sposed to stand up and sing the song, then sit down when the turtles come, but a lot of kids dint sit down and the grown-ups dint stand up because they were texting. Hallie’s dad texted Shoot Me Now and that was silly because why would you text someone to shoot you. There is no shooting in this movie.
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> Oogieloves are like Barney or Teletubbies. They are ugly but nice. They live in Lovelyloveville in a house with a talking window made out of a real womn’s face and a red vacum cleanr. Its name is J. Edgar. Hallie’s Dad said that was a joke for grownups. The window might be its girlfrend. They have a pillow named Schluufy and they got bloons for his birthday but they blew away. So Toofie and Zoozie and Goobie go find the bloons and meet real-life grown-ups who sing crazy songs. That’s the bloon venture in the movies name. One is a cowboy. Another is friends with a cow. A lady speaks Spanish and another lady sneezes.
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> Nobody is mean in this movie. They talk very loud. Theres parts where you dance or say cheers and rimes which made it noisy in the theter. Hallie’s dad said it was Rocky Horror for toddlers whatever that is. Me and Hallie are 7 and we thought it was for babies. Theo is 3 and a half. Dont you dare call him 3. He ran in circels and fell asleep. At the end the Oogieloves get all the bloons and the bloons grow faces. That was kind of a scary part evn tho the bloons were nice.
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> You have kind of a dumb job. Hallie’s dad is a lawyer.
> 
> Your friend,
> 
> Stella

The film got a whopping 27% at Rotten Tomatoes

> **[The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure | Rotten Tomatoes](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_oogieloves_in_the_big_balloon_adventure)**
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> It's their friend Schluufy's birthday, and the Oogieloves -- Goobie, Zoozie and Toofie -- are planning a secret surprise party. But, when the last five magical balloons in LovelyLoveville are lost, Goobie, Zoozie and Toofie must find them, or the...

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/116 "2015-10-26T17:32:03Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> _Avatar_ sucks but it’s surely not the worst movie ever.

Worst _ever_ ever? Nah, of course not. At the very least it was beautiful to look at. However, it might be the worst high budget blockbuster ever. Looking at the top 20 grossing films of all time (adjusted for inflation):

_1 1977 Star Wars Ep. IV: A New Hope $1,362,751,062  
2 1997 Titanic $1,139,182,838  
3 1982 ET: The Extra-Terrestrial $1,124,651,941  
4 2009 Avatar $826,198,130  
5 1980 Star Wars Ep. V: The Empire Strikes Back $808,182,542  
6 1983 Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi $778,214,979  
7 1994 The Lion King $756,219,975  
8 1999 Star Wars Ep. I: The Phantom Menace $755,899,504  
9 1993 Jurassic Park $755,387,687  
10 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark $703,351,941  
11 1994 Forrest Gump $672,783,178  
12 2012 The Avengers $655,383,136  
13 2015 Jurassic World $651,710,075  
14 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind $623,058,297  
15 2008 The Dark Knight $621,624,466  
16 1978 Grease $598,645,451  
17 2004 Shrek 2 $588,287,049  
18 2002 Spider-Man $581,587,324  
19 1996 Independence Day $579,696,466  
20 1984 Ghostbusters $572,046,604_

It’s that or _The Phantom Menace_.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/117 "2015-10-26T18:23:03Z")

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From that list, _Independence Day_ is the worst, if we pretend the 3 SW prequels never happened. 😛

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/118 "2015-10-26T22:20:36Z")

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> [@casdave](#):
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> The Green Beret - John Wayne puts down his six shooter and picks up a M16
> 
> Its a move made by a self confessed arbiter of US patriotism to justify the Vietnam war and rattle the sabre.

Similarly: _Big Jim McLain_. John Wayne plays an investigator for the House Un-American Activities Committee, who goes around Hawaii defeating communism by punching it in the face. It is literally a movie about how the Bill of Rights is bullshit.

Actually, a worse movie than that would be [The Conqueror](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFzL7nDME_c), an historical epic in which John Wayne plays Genghis Khan. Not necessarily the worst movie over, but it is the worst piece of casting ever. John Wayne was a great actor, but not an actor with a lot of (or really any) range. Every line he says is hilarious. The dialogue is all flowery and affected, but Wayne delivers every line in the same “Well, pardner” drawl that he always uses. Really, click on the link.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/119 "2015-10-26T23:11:52Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> Similarly: _Big Jim McLain_.  
> Actually, a worse movie than that would be [The Conqueror](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFzL7nDME_c), an historical epic in which John Wayne plays Genghis Khan. Not necessarily the worst movie over, but it is the worst piece of casting ever. John Wayne was a great actor, but not an actor with a lot of (or really any) range. Every line he says is hilarious. The dialogue is all flowery and affected, but Wayne delivers every line in the same “Well, pardner” drawl that he always uses. Really, click on the link.

Actually, although I agree that _The Conqueror_ is terrible, and John Wayne horribly miscast, I have to object to people to whom the very _idea_ of Wayne playing something other than his usual gruff cowboy is a mistake.

I only recently learned that he starred as Ole Olsen, a Swede, in **The Long Voyage Home** , a film directed by John Ford (who directed many westerns with Wayne). It’s based on a series of short plays by Eugene O’Neill, and was quite a departure for both Ford and Wayne, who had to speak with a Swedish accent. The film wasn’t a success, but it was nominated for multiple awards, including six Academy Awards (including Best Picture). It won the New York Film Critics Circle award for Best Director.  
So, yeah, the Duke _could_ act – he wasn’t always playing himself. And he could pull of an accent.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/convince-us-that-your-most-disliked-movie-us-the-worst-film-ever-made/734550/120 "2015-10-26T23:32:02Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> Actually, a worse movie than that would be [The Conqueror](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFzL7nDME_c), an historical epic in which John Wayne plays Genghis Khan. Not necessarily the worst movie over, but it is the worst piece of casting ever. John Wayne was a great actor, but not an actor with a lot of (or really any) range. Every line he says is hilarious. The dialogue is all flowery and affected, but Wayne delivers every line in the same “Well, pardner” drawl that he always uses. Really, click on the link.

Isn’t that the movie that killed him, and most of the crew because it was filmed in a nuclear testing fallout zone? That’s gotta qualify for some sort of crazy other bad.

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