# Cool video: persistence hunting **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 18, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018 "2009-11-18T11:13:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/1 "2009-11-18T11:13:04Z")
The theory that humans are [specifically adapted](http://www.physorg.com/news95954919.html) to running huge distances is somehow fascinating to me. In that vein, I just came across [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o) video of tribesmen in Africa running down a kudu. The chase lasts for eight hours until the animal collapses from exhaustion. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/2 "2009-11-18T19:54:11Z")
I have heard this before, that the the one physical thing that humans do better than any other animal is long-distance running. I have never heard confirmation of it until now. Maybe the other thing we do better now is carry our food around on our bodies in the form of fat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/3 "2009-11-18T19:59:03Z")
Is that the one where they make little kudu shapes with their hands so they can get inside its head and work out which way it’d run? When you see them pounding along hour after hour you do realise how well we are adapted for that type of hunting. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/4 "2009-11-18T20:35:37Z")
I don’t see the video on that page, but I found it on Youtube, searching for “persistence hunt”. That’s pretty cool. I often wander what it’s like to have to hunt for your food. If you don’t run, you don’t eat. Something tells me I’d never make it out there. I’m a wimp in the heat. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/5 "2009-11-24T00:22:56Z")
You think that’s impressive? The modern tribes of Africa got nuthin on the aboriginal tribes of Australia. [As documented in the new book "Manthropology](http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/scotsman-edinburgh-scotland-the/mi_7951/is_2009_Oct_15/prehistoric-speeding-bolt/ai_n39277758/) > [@](#): > > The anthropologist writes in the opening sentence of the prologue: “If you’re reading this then you - or the male you have bought it for - are the worst man in history. No ifs, no buts - the worst man, period… As a class we are in fact the sorriest cohort of masculine homo sapiens to ever walk the planet.” > > Delving into a wide range of source material, Mr McAllister finds evidence he believes proves modern man is inferior to his predecessors in, among other fields, the basic Olympic athletics disciplines of running and jumping. > > His conclusions about the speed of Australian aboriginals 20,000 years ago are based on a set of footprints, preserved in a fossilised claypan lake bed, of six men chasing prey. An analysis of the footsteps of one of the men, dubbed T8, shows he reached speeds of 37 kph on a soft, muddy lake edge. > > [Usain] Bolt, by comparison, reached a top speed of 42 kph during his then world 100 metres record of 9.69 seconds at last year’s Beijing Olympics. > > Mr McAllister said that, with modern training, spiked shoes and rubberised tracks, aboriginal hunters might have reached speeds of 45 kph. > > He said: "We can assume they are running close to their maximum if they are chasing an animal. But if they can do that speed of 37 kph on very soft ground, I suspect there is a strong chance they would have outdone Usain Bolt if they had all the advantages that he does. > > “We can tell that T8 is accelerating towards the end of his tracks.” I feel ambivalent about this. On the one hand, we’re clearly moving away from our animalistic heritage, and that’s to the good, but are we going to wake up in a few hundred years and realize that we’ve squandered our physiques just like we’ve squandered many of our natural resources? Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/6 "2009-11-24T00:54:48Z")
What do we need such physical abilities for? We’ve outgrown its usefulness. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/7 "2009-11-24T01:32:44Z")
Great video clip Capt! Very interesting to this hunter. I would image that this persistance hunting method would work well in open areas like the African savannah or Australian outback better than in forested areas with less flat terrain. Since the ‘out of Africa’ source of modern humans seems to have the most evidence, this sort of hunting could well explain the success of bipedalism. (walking/running on two legs). And a good pair of Chinese tennis shoes don’t hurt either. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/8 "2009-11-24T01:36:13Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I have heard this before, that the the one physical thing that humans do better than any other animal is long-distance running. I believe the Pronghorn is a clear exception - it has a top speed approaching 100 kph and can do 65 for extended periods. That’s more than three times the speed that an elite human athlete can maintain for hours. So a Pronghorn could stay out of reach of any hunter by running 15 to 20 minutes each hour, and relaxing the rest of the time. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/9 "2009-11-24T01:43:31Z")
This has been discussed here before, but I was fascinated by it. Is this something that was figured out recently? I wonder why it wasn’t taught in school when I was a kid, which wasn’t all that long ago. I learned the biggest animal was the blue whale, the fastest land animal was the cheetah, and so on, but they never told us that humans were the best distance runners. I grew up thinking that humans were smart, but pretty pathetic or at least uninteresting physically. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/10 "2009-11-24T02:22:38Z")
> [@ghardester](#): > > Since the ‘out of Africa’ source of modern humans seems to have the most evidence, this sort of hunting could well explain the success of bipedalism. (walking/running on two legs). > > And a good pair of Chinese tennis shoes don’t hurt either. I think it also helps explain why we gave up our fur so we could better full-body sweat to cool off while generating huge amounts of heat. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/11 "2009-11-24T05:49:30Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > This has been discussed here before, but I was fascinated by it. Is this something that was figured out recently? I wonder why it wasn’t taught in school when I was a kid, which wasn’t all that long ago. I learned the biggest animal was the blue whale, the fastest land animal was the cheetah, and so on, but they never told us that humans were the best distance runners. I grew up thinking that humans were smart, but pretty pathetic or at least uninteresting physically. I guess you could also argue that our brains are pretty special too, and they are technically physical. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cool-video-persistence-hunting/518018/12 "2009-11-24T23:28:45Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > What do we need such physical abilities for? We’ve outgrown its usefulness. There was a time, not to long ago, when we felt we had conquered, or nearly conquered, disease. We had eradicated Smallpox, we were close to eradicating polio, we had conquered malaria during the building of the Panama canal, etc. etc. Our immune systems, once exercised with every breath we took and every bite we ate, began to atrophy. Superbugs began to rear their heads, and now thousands fight daily with germs that we once thought would never trouble mankind again. Similarly, mankind had conquered the base need to breastfeed with the introduction of scientifically proven infant formula. Generations later the science points the opposite direction. The reality is that the human body, adaptable, powerful, and resilient, has done us well for tens of thousands of years, and we should look upon any significant lessening of the capabilities of that body as a warning or a weakness which could come back to bite us in the ass in the future. Enjoy, Steven