# Coolest "Alice in Wonderland" ever?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 4, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826 "2003-12-04T00:15:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/21 "2003-12-04T17:59:19Z")

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It’s there. Just search on Kristine DeBell.

[http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/)

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/22 "2003-12-04T18:30:27Z")

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Yep, gotta go with Svankmajer’s. See it if you can.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/23 "2003-12-04T19:05:58Z")

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My second-favorite Alice is the much-maligned _American McGee’s_ Alice.

My first favorite is Lewis Carroll’s book.

My third favorite is – wait, there is no third favorite. I’ve hated every movie adaptation I’ve ever seen.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/24 "2003-12-04T19:40:37Z")

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Another vote for Svankmajer, with an honorable mention to the creepy _Alice_ recreations in **Dreamchild** (starring Ian Holm as Carroll).

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/25 "2003-12-04T19:50:22Z")

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Give credit where credit is due, folks. Disney’s version is really pretty good, all things considered. Besides, Walt worked with psychedelic guru Aldous Huxley on the movie, and Huxley even wrote one of the potential scripts. I wanna see THAT movie.

1Paul Krassner (former Merry Prankster and current High Times editor) suggests that Huxley might have turned Disney on, based on one or two rather bizarre things that Disney had to say around that time. I kinda doubt this, but it’s pretty funny to imagine.

LC

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/26 "2003-12-04T19:54:31Z")

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I saw Alice in Wonderland XXX – I thought this thread might be about that one.

Ooops.

::shrugs::

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/27 "2003-12-04T21:10:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Exapno Mapcase \*  
> \*\*It’s there. Just search on Kristine DeBell.
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> [http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0074113/) \*\*

Ah! So it is…thanks!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/28 "2003-12-05T03:15:47Z")

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…soooo, I can take it, NO ONE has seen this?

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/29 "2003-12-05T04:12:50Z")

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Ooh. _Alice at the Palace_, a stage production (at the Palace theater) starring Meryl Streep. This is actually a topic I’ve long wanted to post a thread on. Has anybody else ever seen this?

It was _wonderful_. It was a musical version, and it was hipper than shit.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/30 "2003-12-05T04:15:48Z")

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Oops, sorry, Uke, I have not seen your version either. It sounds extremely watchable, by my lights.

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/31 "2003-12-05T04:16:55Z")

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Haven’t seen it, Ike, but plan on looking for it.

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**Author:** ![Dizzy\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dizzy\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dizzy_Fingers)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/32 "2003-12-05T04:41:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dogzilla \*  
> \*\*I saw Alice in Wonderland XXX \*\*

Was it based on “Alice in Underpants”?

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**Author:** ![ProjectOmega](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@ProjectOmega](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ProjectOmega)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/33 "2003-12-05T04:49:09Z")

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I heard they were making a new Alice movie based on the computer game “American McGee’s _Alice_” (sort of a pseudo-sequel; very dark and gothic, great game) with Mila Jovanavich or whatever the hell her name is. Then I heard they were doing it CGI-style instead, but haven’t heard anything since. Anyone know what I’m talking about?

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coolest-alice-in-wonderland-ever/216826/34 "2003-12-05T05:39:30Z")

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Since I love both books and so familiar with them, I can’t respect any dramatized version of Alice that mixes elements of the two books into one.

It’s the same way I cringe over any dramatization of the life of Jesus that blends the four gospel account into one (with the exception of the artsy versions like Godspell which isn’t purporting to show narrative accuracy but has a more artistic aim).

So far, I’m waiting for a dramatization of Alice that will either: 1) respect the integrity of each book; or 2) take Alice off in an artistic direction that transcends the narrative of the books (and I don’t think a porn version is going to do it for me).

Peace.

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