# Copa America 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\ **Created:** [June 20, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139 "2024-06-20T22:22:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/21 "2024-06-25T15:51:11Z")
Certainly. I just think CONCACAF gets less respect than it deserves. Now, it’s not great! But the top 3-4 teams aren’t guaranteed wins like I feel the reputation is (with the probable exception of Mexico). ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/22 "2024-06-25T16:09:15Z")
The top 2 teams have always been though (used to be USA and Mexico, now it’s USA and Canada), but the quality falls precipitously afterward, not surprisingly considering that only 3 countries have the population to maintain some some sort of football quality over time. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/23 "2024-06-25T16:09:16Z")
Costa Rica has built an identity around that 5-4-1 that allows them to grind out smash-and-grab results against good teams, and even if they’re not as good on paper their players know how to make the system work. (Heck, maybe the success of the system has inhibited their players’ development in more expansive systems?) But the improvement of MLS has done a lot to make the Central American and Caribbean teams better by providing another place that’s scouting those countries and developing their talent, but there’s not much general recognition of that. Yet another reason why Copa Americas are so important for CONCACAF… ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/24 "2024-06-25T16:14:34Z")
Current speculation in Twitter Argentina blames Brazil poor result on The Curse of The Cat, they haven’t had good results since they mistreated that cat in Qatar: > **[The cat's curse came true. Brazil eliminated from Qatar 2022 | 2022 FIFA...](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2494414-2022-fifa-world-cup-qatar)** > > See more '2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar' images on Know Your Meme! ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/25 "2024-06-26T01:47:16Z")
A slog of a match between Canada and Peru. So hot and humid that the assistant referee on the sunny side passed out from the heat, and the players were clearly struggling with it too. Even the VAR crew was obviously suffering from some kind of heatstroke or something 😄 But Canada got the win, so they’ll have a chance to get something against Chile on Saturday and make it out of the group. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/26 "2024-06-26T01:52:10Z")
Argentina dominating (Chile is no Canada, so far) but unable to translate that into goals. I’m in my world cup position so I’m doing all I can, it’s up to Messi & Company. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/27 "2024-06-26T02:12:53Z")
Yeah, lots of action around the box, but no finish. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/28 "2024-06-26T03:03:21Z")
Whoa what a second half!, why is Chile alway so difficult? they have no right, no right I tell you. (I think they hate us for calling them trasandines when they say WE are the transandines and they the cisandines…). What a devilish invention VAR… But in the end the better team won, even if we had several heart-stopping moments (but we have a Dibu). ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/29 "2024-06-27T22:35:47Z")
US looks to be in trouble. Stupid red card by Weah. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/30 "2024-06-27T23:04:30Z")
Incredibly dumb. Panama is really chippy/handsy, but nothing a team shouldn’t know how to deal with. (if it was some kind of ‘revenge’ for that semi-strike on Turner, it’s even dumber than I thought) ETA I have the sound off, but looks like Horvath is going in for Turner. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/31 "2024-06-27T23:18:13Z")
I just saw the red card: whyyyy? “Con _jugadores pelotudos_ no hay táctica que valga” is an old saying, ever true. “With _stupid players_ there’s no winning tactic” ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/32 "2024-06-27T23:57:44Z")
Couldn’t quite hold on. If Uruguay beat Bolivia tonight as expected, the US is going to have a tough time making it out of the group. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/33 "2024-06-28T00:03:13Z")
Panama would have 3 points, Uruguay 6, Bolivia 0 and USA 3. You’ll have to try to tie Uruguay and pray that Panama ties or loses with Bolivia, which is possible I guess, or try to beat Uruguay which would be very unlikely. Bolivia is in very bad shape and you can’t expect it to even tie with Panama… 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/34 "2024-06-28T02:40:55Z")
Uruguay predictably demolishing Bolivia. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/35 "2024-06-28T03:16:30Z")
Bolivia looked horrible against the US. What is the population of Uruguay? It always surprised me they are consistently so good, and even comparable to other nations near the Rio Plata. Must be the steak. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/36 "2024-06-28T03:20:33Z")
Honestly they have the greatest national team per capita in the world, 3 million people. Fortunately for us we have more capitas, specially in Fiorito and Rosario, or they would be absolutely unbearable… ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/37 "2024-06-28T04:08:44Z")
Uruguay is the best example of, _“It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight, it’s about the size of the fight in the dog.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/38 "2024-06-28T10:00:00Z")
I think the US play for a win. Uruguay is through, might have an easier time of it vs playing them the first game. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/39 "2024-06-28T12:48:44Z")
Emphasis on _fight_, it used to be considered a win if you came back after an away game against them without severe injuries… ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139/40 "2024-06-28T18:24:52Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Is that (Cabala) what happened when Saudi Arabia won in Qatar against Argentina? somehow I didn’t see this the first time around. No, that was a fuck-up of monumental proportions, but since after losing the first game we ended up winning the whole thing the temptation is to lose again to guarantee the same result, that would be the cabala. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-2024/1003139.md?page=3)