# Copa America Centenario (Copa 2016) Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 2, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319 "2016-06-02T15:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/81 "2016-06-15T13:00:16Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Man, now that Colombia is playing right outside my work, I want to get tickets! But they’re so pricey! $450… I heard that Jackknifed Juggernaut is looking to sell his tickets. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/82 "2016-06-15T14:13:54Z")
Man, the upcoming QF match between Mexico and Chile may end up being the match of the tournament… at the very least it’ll be ridiculously entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/83 "2016-06-17T00:11:10Z")
All right, what are your predictions: I predict: USA over Ecuador Argentina over Venezuela Mexico over Chile Colombia over Peru Argentina over USA Colombia over Mexico And then, Argentina over Colombia. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/84 "2016-06-17T03:18:41Z")
I’d agree except Mexico over Colombia. The US is having some major mental lapses in this Ecuador match. Jones and Wood will miss next match based on idiotic decisions. Bedoya will miss too, but for a more reasonable yellow. That is if they can hold on… ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/85 "2016-06-17T03:36:11Z")
Ecuador had the better of the play on average, but US advances. Old man Dempsey is having a hell of a tournament. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/86 "2016-06-17T06:28:07Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > This. Donovan wasn’t scoring goals for the 2nd place Bundesliga team at 17, that’s for sure. Also keep an eye on Gedion Zelalem, Mukwelle Akale, Jordan Morris, Bobby Wood, Rubio Rubin, John Anthony Brooks & Emerson Hyndman. Wanted to make sure I mentioned Brooks on this list. Yes, yes I did. He’s a monster. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/87 "2016-06-17T11:08:39Z")
That was a foolish, foolish fight for Jones to get into. Now they’re short Jones, as well as Wood and Bedoya, against Argentina. I haven’t been able to watch a game end-to-end, how has Guzan done? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/88 "2016-06-17T13:55:06Z")
WOW, by far the greatest win of Klinsmann’s career! Well done with moving Johnson to the right and having Besler on the left. Fantastic performance! But next game (likely against Argentina) is going to have a ton of juggling of the lineup. But yes, what in the world was Jones thinking? You don’t ball your hand into a fist when you are tapping someone’s face, even if it’s the lightest tap in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/89 "2016-06-17T13:55:58Z")
> [@mcgato](#): > > I heard that Jackknifed Juggernaut is looking to sell his tickets. They just sold on stubhub. I broke even, which is better than I expected. **kinthalis** : You should check stubhub. Tickets in my section 124 are still available at $260 or so. It’s actually a very good view if you get a row lower than 30. I sat in that exact same section during a Brazil-Argentina friendly about 4 years ago and saw Messi score a hat trick. Watching the bend on his last goal from my seats was amazing. It was a thing of beauty. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/90 "2016-06-17T14:06:38Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Surely the Euro tournament is 2nd most prestigious? Certainly not to people living in South America. And considering that the Copa started in 1916 while the Euros in 1960, I’d have to give the tie breaker to the former. ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/91 "2016-06-17T14:11:27Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > That was a foolish, foolish fight for Jones to get into. Now they’re short Jones, as well as Wood and Bedoya, against Argentina. > > I haven’t been able to watch a game end-to-end, how has Guzan done? Guzan looked fine last night. No chance on the goal or the near-misses, and he came out and grabbed a couple good loose balls, but no real challenges either. I wouldn’t say Ecuador had the better of it the whole match – U.S. was mostly controlling things before the second goal and red cards. Ecuador definitely did better the last 30 minutes or so, and probably deserved another goal out of their pressure, but the U.S. win wasn’t a fluke or undeserved. The red card on Jones was ridiculous. Either referee had a really bad angle and didn’t see what really happened (in which case, he shouldn’t be red-carding), he was trying way too super-hard to implement the new rule, or he was just too chicken to give a deserved red card to one side without finding a way to make it up. There was an equal amount of instigation and pushing and shoving by both sides, just Jones’ hand ended up a couple inches higher than the Ecuadoran pushing him. If Jones should get kicked out for that by the strict absolute letter of the law, then so should the Ecuadoran who came over and touched Dempsey’s face while he was down ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/92 "2016-06-17T14:12:49Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > The red card on Jones was ridiculous. Either referee had a really bad angle and didn’t see what really happened (in which case, he shouldn’t be red-carding), he was trying way too super-hard to implement the new rule, or he was just too chicken to give a deserved red card to one side without finding a way to make it up. There was an equal amount of instigation and pushing and shoving by both sides, just Jones’ hand ended up a couple inches higher than the Ecuadoran pushing him. > > If Jones should get kicked out for that by the strict absolute letter of the law, then so should the Ecuadoran who came over and touched Dempsey’s face while he was down Jones balled his hand into a fist while tapping the Ecuadorian. I have no issues with that being a red. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/93 "2016-06-17T17:20:40Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > Guzan looked fine last night. No chance on the goal or the near-misses, and he came out and grabbed a couple good loose balls, but no real challenges either. Thanks! > [@](#): > > The red card on Jones was ridiculous. Either referee had a really bad angle and didn’t see what really happened (in which case, he shouldn’t be red-carding), he was trying way too super-hard to implement the new rule, or he was just too chicken to give a deserved red card to one side without finding a way to make it up. There was an equal amount of instigation and pushing and shoving by both sides, just Jones’ hand ended up a couple inches higher than the Ecuadoran pushing him. > > If Jones should get kicked out for that by the strict absolute letter of the law, then so should the Ecuadoran who came over and touched Dempsey’s face while he was down Look, any time you reach out and push someone’s face you run the risk of getting a red card, particularly in a game that’s turning chippy\*, particularly if someone on the other team just got a red (to your point above), and whether you meant to or not. It’s just what happens, and he knows that. The big irony is that it looks like he starts off trying to calm things down… - dibs on band name “Turning Chippy” ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/94 "2016-06-17T19:07:38Z")
Good result for the USA,. Though I feel getting past Argentina might be too much of a tall order, whatever happens now the tournament has been a successful one for the USA. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/95 "2016-06-17T20:34:40Z")
Yes - from a certain perspective the way this turned out is perfect for the US. Nobody will be surprised if they go out to Argentina, especially with the missing players, so probably the tournament will be seen as a success now no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/96 "2016-06-18T23:17:21Z")
Holy shit, Messi to Higuain, that was the goal of the tournament for me. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/97 "2016-06-18T23:54:01Z")
Argentina’s defense looks like trash, the US should get some chances against them, especially with 4 days rest vs 2. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/98 "2016-06-19T00:05:13Z")
My grandma could kick a penalty better than that Venezuelan player. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/99 "2016-06-19T00:06:14Z")
And she’s been dead these last 10 years or so. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319/100 "2016-06-19T01:56:33Z")
Mexico-Chile should be best game of QF’s. Defending champs against a team that hasn’t lost in a year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copa-america-centenario-copa-2016-thread/756319.md?page=6)