# Copper-it does work for chronic pain! I am living proof! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 17, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526 "2012-07-17T15:15:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/61 "2012-07-17T23:46:00Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > I’m so sorry. It’s your very first post and so many people are giving you such a hard time. Please don’t let it discourage you from participating on this site in the future. > > I am very glad that you found pain relief. I’m a firm believer that different things work for different people. There are millions of stories out there from people who have found relief from many different ailments, using only non-conventional methods that don’t involve western medicine. > > Thanks for sharing your experience! Questionable N00b sticking up for questionable n00b. This should be interesting. REALLY interesting… We are the **Illuminati** , you are fucked. We rule the world. Fnord. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/62 "2012-07-17T23:48:41Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > ‘Anecdote’ does _not_ equal ‘evidence’. Please, stop pestering us with this shit. It gets tedious, refuting it all the time. Present evidence, or fuck off. Anecdote means it worked for me Evidence means it worked for others If the cure came from the placebo effect due to a copper bracelet for the individual it worked for them and that’s really all there is to it. Does it work for you - regardless of if it works for others. Anecdote is more important to the life of the individual then evidence. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/63 "2012-07-17T23:50:03Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Questionable N00b sticking up for questionable n00b. This should be interesting. REALLY interesting… > > We are the **Illuminati** , you are fucked. We rule the world. Fnord. Or not. This isn’t basic math - a negative times a negative doesn’t equal a positive. Unless you are testing for nutballism. Then it would. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/64 "2012-07-18T00:17:52Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Anecdote means it worked for me Wrong. It means (just like you always present) _I’m convinced_ it works for me _whether I know or not if it actually works_. You don’t care if it works. I do. Convince me, or GTFO. As you present, it also means “without any evidence at all”. You have not _ever_ presented _any_ evidence to the claims you make. Why should I believe you? “IMHO” is the forum. I’ll just leave that dog-shit there on the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/65 "2012-07-18T00:42:27Z")
I love it when a spammer forgets to put in a link. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/66 "2012-07-18T01:06:35Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Anecdote means it worked for me > Evidence means it worked for others This may be In My Humble Opinion, but you are absolutely, without a smidgen of a doubt, 100% wrong. If you don’t wish to speak the same language as the rest of the English speaking world and adhere to the common definitions the rest of us use when speaking said English language, then you will not be taken seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/67 "2012-07-18T01:13:24Z")
With a name like **nonimahony** I would have assumed something about miraculous noni juice. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/68 "2012-07-18T01:13:28Z")
I give the OP points, at least, for trying to sell a measley $5 copper bracelet. When the fad was at its height, people were selling $500 copper bracelets. Not too long ago, I bumped into someone who was doing the local front-work – focus group sales pitches – for the “eye exercise” cure for myopia. No need for glasses or contacts: just roll your eyes the right way and your eye muscles will be strengthened. Yeah. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/69 "2012-07-18T01:54:05Z")
Wouldn’t it be funny if there actually was a [cite](http://www.livestrong.com/article/101854-benefits-wearing-copper-bracelets/) that wearing a copper bracelet could cause some relief? I’m not claiming it’s science. I’m not claiming it works. But some people think it does. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/70 "2012-07-18T01:55:48Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Wouldn’t it be funny if there actually was a [cite](http://www.livestrong.com/article/101854-benefits-wearing-copper-bracelets/) that wearing a copper bracelet could cause some relief? You don’t actually consider that at all credible, do you?? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/71 "2012-07-18T02:05:25Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > You don’t actually consider that at all credible, do you?? I have no idea. I really don’t care. My point is that when 1 person claims something worked for them, I’m not going to call them a liar. If they claim it will work for everyone, I’ll reconsider. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/72 "2012-07-18T02:33:51Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I have no idea. I really don’t care. And there is the difference between us-some of us _do_ care…and that’s why we’re here. There are an untold number of boards where people just don’t care if what they support is bullshit or not, and hopefully this isn’t one of them. ---
**Author:** ![highrollinwooded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/71c47a/32.png) [@highrollinwooded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/highrollinwooded)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/73 "2012-07-18T02:37:33Z")
I call shenanigans…[Urban Dictionary: call shenanigans](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Call%20shenanigans)… just sayin…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/74 "2012-07-18T02:46:30Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I have no idea. I really don’t care. My point is that when 1 person claims something worked for them, I’m not going to call them a liar. If they claim it will work for everyone, I’ll reconsider. When one person claims that something worked for him or her (not them) I call it an anecdotal piece of evidence. Liar? Possibly not, but certainly not worthy of scientific merit. How difficult is this to comprehend? ---
**Author:** ![LadyMadonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb8c5e/32.png) [@LadyMadonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LadyMadonna)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/75 "2012-07-18T02:49:49Z")
Noobs can be a good thing. They sometimes breathe fresh life into message boards such as this one. And I don’t believe Nonimahoney was promoting copper bracelets or anything else. I think she was just sharing her experience. I guess I could be wrong, though. After all, I am a Noob. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/76 "2012-07-18T03:00:04Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Noobs can be a good thing. They sometimes breathe fresh life into message boards such as this one. > > And I don’t believe Nonimahoney was promoting copper bracelets or anything else. I think she was just sharing her experience. > > I guess I could be wrong, though. After all, I am a Noob. We’re watching you. But really, the OP looks like a drive by spammer. One ill-informed post. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/77 "2012-07-18T03:09:19Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > We’re watching you. > > But really, the OP looks like a drive by spammer. One ill-informed post. I think she’s a True Believer. Spammers very rarely fill out such a complete profile and even then, it’s clearly a bot or human who doesn’t speak English. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/78 "2012-07-18T03:39:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And there is the difference between us-some of us _do_ care…and that’s why we’re here. There are an untold number of boards where people just don’t care if what they support is bullshit or not, and hopefully this isn’t one of them. She claimed it worked for her. Would she be in a better position to make that claim than you are to deny it? In my humble opinion, your comments in post #2 were akin to a gunslinger shooting someone before they had an opportunity to clarify, or explain their position. When someone is new, they probably read the first response to their thread and when it’s like post #2, they run for the hills. I wonder what would have happened if that post had invited a further discussion instead of killing it? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/79 "2012-07-18T04:19:30Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > I think she’s a True Believer. Spammers very rarely fill out such a complete profile and even then, it’s clearly a bot or human who doesn’t speak English. Or it _could_ be a spammer testing the waters to see if others would bite, giving out links later on. “Copper-it does work for chronic pain! I am living proof!” is not something you would expect to see from someone who thinks that the copper bracelet _may_ play a part in the lessening of pain. That’s looks like the headline of a large advertisement to me. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526/80 "2012-07-18T04:22:06Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > She claimed it worked for her. Would she be in a better position to make that claim than you are to deny it? I backed up my side with double-blind studies, so it isn’t just my word against hers no matter how many times you try to spin it that way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/copper-it-does-work-for-chronic-pain-i-am-living-proof/628526.md?page=5)