# "Cops" show comes to Omaha; 1 dead **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680 "2014-08-27T20:05:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/1 "2014-08-27T20:05:58Z")
Omaha police last night shot a cameraman dead who was filming a robbery-in-progress at a Wendy’s restaurant. I want to see them glorify that. Police overreach has been my main theme since joining this enlightened assembly. Since then, we have had the nightstick-choking of a black man, the unrest in Furgeson, and now this. Tell me, again, how off-base I was. I know many of you will. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/2 "2014-08-27T20:10:09Z")
Why don’t you explain why the police acted recklessly in shooting the cameraman? Did he rush in to the middle of the gunfight? Did a police officer simply turn around and shoot the cameraman in the back seat of his cruiser? It’s rather hard to agree or disagree with you on this incident when your post mostly conveys annoyance with the fact that not everyone has agreed with you in the past. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/3 "2014-08-27T20:10:46Z")
This sounds more like a BBQ Pit rant than a debate. Why don’t you set forth an actual thesis to discuss. Otherwise, I will probably move it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/4 "2014-08-27T20:16:21Z")
Man who places himself in police crossfire for a living gets hit by police crossfire. Truly nobody could have seen this coming. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/5 "2014-08-27T20:19:04Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Why don’t you explain why the police acted recklessly in shooting the cameraman? Did he rush in to the middle of the gunfight? Did a police officer simply turn around and shoot the cameraman in the back seat of his cruiser? > > It’s rather hard to agree or disagree with you on this incident when your post mostly conveys annoyance with the fact that not everyone has agreed with you in the past. You’ve watched “Cops”, have you not ? That’s what their cameramen do; follow just behind the police. The robber had an air pistol, looked just like a gun but fires plastic bullets. The round that killed the Cops cameraman came from a police weapon. Over 30 police arrived at the scene. 30+shots were fired by the police, wounding the suspect. The Omaha police invited “Cops” to town to help show how efficient the Omaha police are. They did. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/6 "2014-08-27T20:22:24Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > This sounds more like a BBQ Pit rant than a debate. > > Why don’t you set forth an actual thesis to discuss. Otherwise, I will probably move it. I disagree. It’s front-page news. Watch the evening news, tonight. My actual thesis ? Cops are overly aggressive and are becoming more so. Should this be in the comics section ? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/7 "2014-08-27T20:23:04Z")
I think it’s fascinating that we already see strong opinions on at least two sides when [we know next to nothing at all about what happened](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/27/cops-employee-shot/14669517/). ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/8 "2014-08-27T20:23:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Man who places himself in police crossfire for a living gets hit by police crossfire. > > Truly nobody could have seen this coming. Missed the point by a hundred miles. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/9 "2014-08-27T20:27:10Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > I disagree. It’s front-page news. Watch the evening news, tonight. My actual thesis ? Cops are overly aggressive and are becoming more so. Should this be in the comics section ? Nope. The BBQ Pit. You think cops are too aggressive. OK. That is not an argument or a discussion. It might have gone in IMHO, (since you are only asking for opinions, not facts and logic), but with the hostility of the OP, it is going into The BBQ Pit. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/10 "2014-08-27T20:28:05Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > Missed the point by a hundred miles. Well, you haven’t seen fit to give us a “point” yet, so… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/11 "2014-08-27T20:32:34Z")
Since the OP couldn’t be bothered to [provide a link.](http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Police-Investigate-Shooting-272815631.html) This is odd. Since when does an Airsoft pistol make a sound and recoil like a real pistol? > [@](#): > > Schmaderer said according to witnesses, the suspect discharged a handgun that turned out to be an Airsoft pellet gun. He says witnesses reported hearing the gun and seeing the recoil. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/12 "2014-08-27T20:34:24Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Nope. The BBQ Pit. > > You think cops are too aggressive. OK. That is not an argument or a discussion. > > It might have gone in IMHO, (since you are only asking for opinions, not facts and logic), but with the hostility of the OP, it is going into The BBQ Pit. > > [/Moderating] Sad, just sad. My “hostility” ? I guess some must be of the opinion that police brutality and racial inequities are trivial matters. They are not. Put this thread wherever it comforts you. Yea, there too. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/13 "2014-08-27T20:35:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Well, you haven’t seen fit to give us a “point” yet, so… And yet you’ve still managed to say some stupid things. You are nothing if not reliable. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/14 "2014-08-27T20:37:51Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Well, you haven’t seen fit to give us a “point” yet, so… I have, sir. This: Cops and the powers of the police are run-amuck in the land free and the brave. I don’t know how to be more succinct. Perhaps the problem is on your end. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/15 "2014-08-27T20:39:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > And yet you’ve still managed to say some stupid things. You are nothing if not reliable. And you are a mod., or, something. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/16 "2014-08-27T20:40:07Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > Sad, just sad. My “hostility” ? I guess some must be of the opinion that police brutality and racial inequities are trivial matters. They are not. Put this thread wherever it comforts you. Yea, there too. > [@common\_good](#): > > I have, sir. This: Cops and the powers of the police are run-amuck in the land free and the brave. I don’t know how to be more succinct. Perhaps the problem is on your end. Are you suggesting that the cops aggressively shot the cameraman because he was black or something? Because otherwise your quips about “police brutality” or “racial inequalities” make absolutely no sense in this context. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/17 "2014-08-27T20:41:24Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Since the OP couldn’t be bothered to [provide a link.](http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Police-Investigate-Shooting-272815631.html) > This is odd. Since when does an Airsoft pistol make a sound and recoil like a real pistol? since never. they don’t. figure it out ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/18 "2014-08-27T20:44:12Z")
So has someone posted some diagrams? To me it would seem the COPS people would be in back of the police–thus I could see him being shot by the villain; but don’t understand how he could be shot by the police. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/19 "2014-08-27T20:44:35Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > You’ve watched “Cops”, have you not ? That’s what their cameramen do; follow just behind the police. The robber had an air pistol, looked just like a gun but fires plastic bullets. The round that killed the Cops cameraman came from a police weapon. Over 30 police arrived at the scene. 30+shots were fired by the police, wounding the suspect. The Omaha police invited “Cops” to town to help show how efficient the Omaha police are. They did. So what should the cops do when they show up at an robbery in progress and see a robber with a gun (that, so far as they know is real) pointed at the cashier? I mean, maybe the other 20 rounds didn’t need to be shot, but the first few did. It doesn’t matter if the gun was fake, it looked real, he threatened people with it, at least in my state, doing that gives other people the right defend themselves (or the person in danger) including using deadly force. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Since the OP couldn’t be bothered to [provide a link.](http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Police-Investigate-Shooting-272815631.html) > This is odd. Since when does an Airsoft pistol make a sound and recoil like a real pistol? Witnesses are notoriously unreliable. But a cop sees a robber move his finger to the trigger and he’s not going to wait to see what happens next, it’s more important that he goes home to see his family than he waits to see if it’s actually a fake gun. If you bust in to a store with a gun, you give up the right to walk back out under your own power. Also, if the robber lives/ed, I’m willing to bet he’d be charged with the murder of the camera man. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/20 "2014-08-27T20:45:11Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > Sad, just sad. My “hostility” ? I guess some must be of the opinion that police brutality and racial inequities are trivial matters. They are not. Put this thread wherever it comforts you. Yea, there too. If you want to complain about how this thread was moderated or the board in general, go to ATMB. It doesn’t belong here. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680.md?page=2)