# "Cops" show comes to Omaha; 1 dead **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680 "2014-08-27T20:05:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/321 "2014-09-11T20:59:39Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > “guess-at” ? Where did you study grammar, cupcake? > > Additionally, many people spell the word “analyze”. > > To quote The Perfect Master, " Girls don’t get intimate with boys who’re illiterate". > > Bob Jones University offers these [Undergraduate fields of study](http://www.bju.edu/academics/programs/), and these [Graduate fields of study](http://www.bju.edu/academics/graduate-programs/). > > An educated man might have at least chosen a college or university that _offers_ Psychology when slighting me. I’m fascinated that you could not be bothered to find one. > > 🙂 “slighting” you ? I was trying to complement you. So, spelling and you googled Bob Jones curriculum. I’m awestruck at your brilliance. The Perfect Master ? Is that a handbook for preppies trying to get laid ? You are too easily fascinated, rich boy. Do any of you express yourselves without referring to the “Rich Bastard Guide to Inter-Social Etiquette” ? ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/322 "2014-09-11T21:02:23Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Just this one. You’re a fabulous host, by the way. Clever editing. And you “turned-the-table” on me. That’s never been done before you, just now. Bravo ! ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/323 "2014-09-11T21:03:29Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Bah. Yep, that’s what sheep say. But, who the fuck asked ? ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/324 "2014-09-11T21:09:59Z")
Shit. You guys are too easy. I’m going home. Yes; to my van DOWN BY THE RIVER ! One last question: Why are you guys called “the intelligentsia” ? I never got that. Still don’t. It must be under my head, about crotch-level, is my guess. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/325 "2014-09-11T21:12:09Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Just this one. You’re a fabulous host, by the way. And you make a fine turnip. See, we can learn to play nice. But it takes a little effort. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/326 "2014-09-11T21:15:28Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > Shit. You guys are too easy. I’m going home. Yes; to my van DOWN BY THE RIVER ! You misspelled _cardboard box_. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/327 "2014-09-11T21:17:44Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > “guess-at” ? Where did you study grammar, cupcake? > > Additionally, many people spell the word “analyze”. > > To quote The Perfect Master, " Girls don’t get intimate with boys who’re illiterate". > > Bob Jones University offers these [Undergraduate fields of study](http://www.bju.edu/academics/programs/), and these [Graduate fields of study](http://www.bju.edu/academics/graduate-programs/). > > An educated man might have at least chosen a college or university that _offers_ Psychology when slighting me. I’m fascinated that you could not be bothered to find one. > > 🙂 Cupcake ? I told you guys; I’m straight. By “analize” I meant to suggest where to “put” your opinions. I did this subconsciously. Even my subconscious mind is funnier than your conscious one. Honey-pie ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/328 "2014-09-11T21:19:22Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You misspelled _cardboard box_. Weak, but a worthy effort. You’ll never be Jewish, though. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/329 "2014-09-11T21:19:28Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > I’m going home. We can’t miss you if you won’t leave. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/330 "2014-09-11T21:21:11Z")
Your scorn is like a gentle rain. Thanks, all. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/331 "2014-09-11T21:21:47Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > Shit. You guys are too easy. I’m going home. Yes; to my van DOWN BY THE RIVER ! [Down By THIS River??](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1gxkRve4Q0) 😃 > [@](#): > > One last question: Why are you guys called “the intelligentsia” ? I never got that. Still don’t. It must be under my head, about crotch-level, is my guess. We’re not. We’re referred to ironically as The Illuminati. Completely different. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/332 "2014-09-11T21:22:23Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > We can’t miss you if you won’t leave. You’re right. I’d better stay. You guys holdin’-up okay ? ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/333 "2014-09-11T21:24:44Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > [Down By THIS River??](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1gxkRve4Q0) 😃 > > We’re not. We’re referred to ironically as The Illuminati. > > Completely different. Oh, I see. No, not really. But you guys ARE getting funnier, if not smarter. Yet. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/334 "2014-09-11T21:28:02Z")
> [@](#): > > [Originally Posted by **Monty** > Not that I expect a real answer, and certainly not an actually coherent one, but here goes anyway. WTF is “over-trained”? > [@common\_good](#): > > Militarized. Overwhelming show of force, as our military does things. Shoot first, ask questions later, that sort of thing. Capice ? I wouldn’t necessarily call that over trained as much as mis-trained. In NYC when four cops shot up Sean Bell’s car, all standing within half a street’s width from the car, 50 of their 100 shots missed the car entirely. One of the missed shots almost killed a LIRR passenger a half mile away at Jamaica station. (Bell was unarmed and completely innocent of any wrongdoing.) In another NYC incident, two cops shot and killed a bad guy (murderer) in front of the Empire State Building. Justified shooting, except their misses wounded nine (!!) innocent passersby. We don’t know the exact numbers, but the cop in Ferguson apparently missed more than half his shots. We’re all lucky he didn’t wound or kill someone else. Cops are all too frequently (just cruise around YouTube a bit) caught violating the law and/or abusing citizens on camera. These things do not indicate well trained or even over trained officers to me. The emphasis in training apparently needs to be refocused. Cops need to be trained to do their jobs better. Trained to shoot straight and deal with the public in less confrontational ways. Instead of providing armored weaponry, it might be better if the federal government funded continuing education training for police officers. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/335 "2014-09-11T21:28:18Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > …I’m the type your wives cheat on you with… > [@common\_good](#): > > I don’t engage in sex, anymore, by choice… . > [@common\_good](#): > > … All any of you can manage to do is attack me, ad hominem, and avoid addressing every fucking point I submit… Hee-hee. You ain’t screwing nobody’s wife. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/336 "2014-09-11T21:32:28Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Hee-hee. You ain’t screwing nobody’s wife. No, and I don’t believe he was just _helping_ that sheep over the fence either. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/337 "2014-09-11T21:41:32Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Man makes hostile posts then complains of being attacked after said posts gets his thread moved to the Pit. Film at 11. What do you mean by “hostile posts” ? Impassioned, yes. And most of the members are woefully apathetic about social inequity. So that fact makes me come across as hostile ? Why not “concerned”, or “alarmed by”, or such ? Goddamn, the rich really ARE different ! (that is not a complement) I don’t hate the wealthy. And I don’t envy them, either. But you see far less than you know and prefer things that way. Democrats ? Freedom-loving egalitarians ? Where ? Freethinkers ? Americans ? As I have stated before; compassion for the less-fortunate among us is in no way antithetical to higher reasoning. I don’t understand why this must be said to such educated people as yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/338 "2014-09-11T21:50:56Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > I wouldn’t necessarily call that over trained as much as mis-trained. > > In NYC when four cops shot up Sean Bell’s car, all standing within half a street’s width from the car, 50 of their 100 shots missed the car entirely. One of the missed shots almost killed a LIRR passenger a half mile away at Jamaica station. (Bell was unarmed and completely innocent of any wrongdoing.) > > In another NYC incident, two cops shot and killed a bad guy (murderer) in front of the Empire State Building. Justified shooting, except their misses wounded nine (!!) innocent passersby. > > We don’t know the exact numbers, but the cop in Ferguson apparently missed more than half his shots. We’re all lucky he didn’t wound or kill someone else. > > Cops are all too frequently (just cruise around YouTube a bit) caught violating the law and/or abusing citizens on camera. > > These things do not indicate well trained or even over trained officers to me. The emphasis in training apparently needs to be refocused. > > Cops need to be trained to do their jobs better. Trained to shoot straight and deal with the public in less confrontational ways. Instead of providing armored weaponry, it might be better if the federal government funded continuing education training for police officers. Thank you for saying what I have, apparently, fell short of expressing. I agree; over-trained was not the best choice of words. undertrained is better. But the militarization of police in America is, I believe, beyond dispute. And it worries many others, besides little-old me. You, Sir, are a gentleman. Pay attention, the rest of you. This is how debate and the rules of proper discourse are performed. Throwing tomatos is one thing. Making sauce is another thing entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/339 "2014-09-11T21:55:44Z")
Bolding mine: > [@tomndebb](#): > > You think cops are too aggressive. OK. That is not an argument or a discussion. > > It might have gone in IMHO, (since you are only asking for opinions, not facts and logic), but with the **hostility of the OP** , it is going into The BBQ Pit. > > [/Moderating] By the way: I’m a mid-level white collar worker for the US Government who has done manual labor when it was the only job he could get. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680/340 "2014-09-11T22:15:35Z")
> [@common\_good](#): > > Pay attention, the rest of you. This is how debate and the rules of proper discourse are performed. Throwing tomatos is one thing. Making sauce is another thing entirely. No, _you_ pay attention, cupcake. 1. Read the Rules of this Message Board in their entirety. 2. Read the definitions of every Forum within this Message Board. 3. Harken well to the remarks of the Moderators. This thread is in the BBQ Pit. The rules concerning language and behavior in this Forum are incredibly carefully detailed in stickies at the top page of The Pit front page. If you are incapable of comprehending the Rules of both SDMB and the BBQ Pit Forum, why there are folks who will be delighted to educate you. Most of us spell that word “tomatoes”. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cops-show-comes-to-omaha-1-dead/696680.md?page=18)